Angelo's Death


Why was Daphne so upset about his death? She hated him for most of the series. Also why did she blame Regina as if she literally killed him.

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Angelo still was Daphnes` dad. He abandoned her and they were just starting to get close again. I really understand why that hurt Daphne so hard. She was starting to get back dad she had missed her whole life only to loose him again.

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I don't get it.

I would have "gotten" it, if Angelo was biologically Daphne's dad, but he wasn't. The only thing that makes Regina Daphne's mom is that Regina is the person who raised Daphne. Angelo did not do that, and he has no biological connection to Daphne, so Angelo is NOT Daphne's dad.

At best, Angelo is the person who would have been Daphne's dad, if Regina had not kicked him out of her home when Daphne was a baby.

I don't think Daphne was grieving Angelo's loss at all. I don't think Daphne had time to develop any sincere feelings for Angelo, the man.

She resented him for the first few years, and then, she had a few good weeks with him, before he died. I think her grief was over the realization that she never had a father growing up. You would think that would have made Daphne cling to John Kennish, but for some reason it did not. Instead, Daphne decided to take out her grief over never having a father on Regina.

I guess, because Regina is the one who kept the secret about Daphne being the Kennish's biological child, and because Regina hid all of Angelo's letters to Daphne and kept him from seeing her while she was growing up, that Daphne has a lot of hostility and anger towards Regina.

I know Daphne seems to have snapped out of her snit, ever since the parents found her crying at the tree where Angelo's car crashed, but I still don't believe Daphne has worked through all of her anger and resentment towards Regina.

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He did raise her 3 years as his own. So it makes him her dad and add to that Daphne thought 16 years that he is her biological dad.

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But I do agree that there was also issues with switch.

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Also Regina didn't kick him out..he left thinking she had an affair cuz Daphne wasn't his.

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Also Regina didn't kick him out..he left thinking she had an affair cuz Daphne wasn't his.


Did you miss the episode with all of the flashbacks? It's the same episode where Angelo dies.

Here are Angelo & Regina's exact words, when Daphne was a baby:

Angelo: I just want the truth.

Regina: Go home, pack your stuff, and get out! We'll be better off without you.

And Angelo & Regina discuss his departure in detail, in the first episode in which Angelo ever appears:

Angelo: I told you I didn't care if you slept with someone else, I just wanted to know the truth.

Regina: I was telling you the truth.

Angelo: Look at it from my point of view. You pushed me out.

Regina: What?! No, I didn't.

Angelo: You said, "If you don't trust me, then just go." You didn't give me any choice.

From both episodes, it was painfully clear that Regina kicked Angelo out of their home, because he did not believe she was telling the truth. Angelo even goes on to say that he tried to keep in touch with Daphne by sending cards, letters, and packages, and Regina hid them from Daphne and never gave them to her. Regina said to Angelo, "By the time you tried, she'd already forgotten about you. It was just easier."

Bay reminds me of Regina.

When Emmett told Bay, "It doesn't have to be forever. Maybe in a few years...," Bay told Emmett, "You do this now, it's done. It's forever."

In my mind, that's a whole lot like Regina's "Go home, pack your stuff, and get out! We'll be better off without you."

Both women are quick to cut their noses off to spite their faces.

Luckily, Bay has some of Kathryn in her, too, through her upbringing, and therefore, I believe Bay is more forgiving than Regina.

The fiery temper may be an inherited trait, but Bay's got Kathryn's kindness and Angelo's warmth. Regina doesn't have that.

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Oh yaaaa It's been awhile since I seen it..I must have missed that. I am a forever bemmett fan and I hope they do end up together.

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When Emmett told Bay, "It doesn't have to be forever. Maybe in a few years...," Bay told Emmett, "You do this now, it's done. It's forever."

In my mind, that's a whole lot like Regina's "Go home, pack your stuff, and get out! We'll be better off without you."


I think it seems similar, but it is actually quite different. With Regina and Angelo, the issue was that Daphne didn't look like any of them, so he thought she cheated, with Daphne's looks being the only indication that anything was wrong.

With Bay and Emmett, Emmett thought Bay cheated, then that she was raped, then again that she cheated, then took up his fling with Skye and made a movie about Bay's actions from his point of view behind her back.
Bay had both the movie and Skye directly in front of her when she came to L.A. All Regina had was the mistrust of Angelo which was an extremely understandable mistrust.

Bay had more reasons to break things off for good. And I think she felt quite ridiculous when Emmett suggested they take things up again in a few years. For one, that's a pretty stupid thing to say in the first place. Why not just say "Let's have a break for a few months and try to figure out what we want with each other and in life".
Second, after him not believing her (Indeed, not even trying to listen to her) and making this movie behind her back and Skye in front of her, there wasn't much reason to forgive Emmett, not in that moment. His mistrust was misplaced, since he never listened to Bay, or talked to Tank.
What had happened was something only Bay and Tank had any actual information about. With the Daphne issue, there were DNA tests and it was just not an issue no one could have done or said something about.

While I think it's okay to compare Bay's temper to Regina's, and I second your opinion on both Regina's temper and Kathryn's kindness in Bay, I think it's important to remember that the two situations between Bay and Emmett and Regina and Angelo are not as equatable as they might seem.

... oh, thank you, now I ship Kathryn and Angelo. Hopefully, that's a good thing. Although they would make pretty babies... (Then again, Gilles Marini would always make pretty babies.)

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Angelo raised Daphne for the first three years if her life as his own and after he returned he came first to her & Regina to apologize,mend fences and in season there before his death especially ,Angelo and Daphne were close,bonding,spending time together.Until she found out about the switch,Dapne thought he was her father.
She blamed Regina thinking that if Angelo& Regina hadn't fought and Ge been angry/upset when he keft,he migh not have had the anyeisum or whatever,crashed the car & died.

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Angelo raised Daphne for the first three years if her life as his own and after he returned he came first to her & Regina to apologize,mend fences


Actually, he came first to Bay, to get to know her. Only when Daphne, Regina, and Adrianna stood in the way of him getting to know Bay did Angelo apologize and try to mend fences. And when he did, Daphne rebuked him and talked horribly about him to anyone who would listen. When he said he wanted to be friends with Daphne, she point-blank told him she was not interested in his friendship.

and in season there before his death especially ,Angelo and Daphne were close,bonding,spending time together.


No, they only bonded for one episode, when Daphne asked Angelo to move to the guest house to protect her mother from Nacho, and the two of them made dinner together that evening, while she taught Angelo some sign language. That was the only time we saw them bonding, until the night of his death.

Until she found out about the switch,Dapne thought he was her father. She blamed Regina thinking that if Angelo& Regina hadn't fought and Ge been angry/upset when he keft,he migh not have had the anyeisum or whatever,crashed the car & died.


Yes, Daphne irrationally blamed Regina for Angelo's aneurysm. I would think that a pre-med major would have been more logical than to blame it on that. In fact, if she wanted to blame the aneurysm on Angelo's stress, then she should have looked at the YEARS of stress she caused the man. That most certainly could have caused Angelo's aneurysm to burst sooner than it would have. Long-term stress is horrible for one's health.

But no, Daphne never saw Angelo has her father, even before she found out about the switch.

Regina had removed all of the man's pictures from their photo albums at the moment he left. Daphne did NOT know the man's name.

When Bay showed Daphne the picture of the gay disc jockey named Angelo Sorrento and asked Daphne if that was her dad, I still remember Bay's shocked expression when she realized Daphne had no idea what the man looked like or even his name.

DAPHNE: So what's his name?

BAY: - Angelo Sorrento. You really didn't know his name.


I don't think Daphne's spin-out had anything to do with grief for the man himself. Daphne wasn't grieving Angelo the person. She was grieving never having a father. It still makes no sense to me that she didn't turn to her biological father, who had been coaching her basketball team and doing everything he could to get close to her. Daphne did not need to spin out of control when Angelo died. She barely knew him.

I think Angelo's death just brought up a lot of anger about Regina's original lies and the switch overall. I'm not surprised that Daphne had little interest in celebrating Angelo's birthday with Bay, one year later. Daphne does not remember ever truly feeling close to Angelo, other than those few days before his death.

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Actually, he came first to Bay, to get to know her. Only when Daphne, Regina, and Adrianna stood in the way of him getting to know Bay did Angelo apologize and try to mend fences.


Not quite. He came to talk to Bay, then she brought hi to the house, then Daphne happened to be there and Angelo took the chance, which I think he was hoping to have, to try and apologize to her.

Regina and Adriana hadn't even heard that he was in town before that.

No, they only bonded for one episode, when Daphne asked Angelo to move to the guest house to protect her mother from Nacho, and the two of them made dinner together that evening, while she taught Angelo some sign language. That was the only time we saw them bonding, until the night of his death.


Well, there were also the moments when Angelo bought her a food truck and when he punched Chef Jeff. But him seeing Daphne as one of his daughters always seemed one-sided. Daphne just took his kindness, but hardly ever reciprocated.

Yes, Daphne irrationally blamed Regina for Angelo's aneurysm. I would think that a pre-med major would have been more logical than to blame it on that.


Well, we all know by now that she isn't fit for that occupation. But, in Daphne's defense (Yes, I'm going there, I am sorry), she was just finishing high school at the time of his death. She entered college quite a while later, both after his death, her criminal activities and her supposedly getting over her resentment of Regina.

In fact, if she wanted to blame the aneurysm on Angelo's stress, then she should have looked at the YEARS of stress she caused the man.


Well, we've yet to see her blame herself for something she's actually at fault for, don't we?

Long-term stress is horrible for one's health.


Though thankfully not for Angelo's looks~

I don't think Daphne's spin-out had anything to do with grief for the man himself. Daphne wasn't grieving Angelo the person. She was grieving never having a father.


I second that.

I think Angelo's death just brought up a lot of anger about Regina's original lies and the switch overall. I'm not surprised that Daphne had little interest in celebrating Angelo's birthday with Bay, one year later. Daphne does not remember ever truly feeling close to Angelo, other than those few days before his death.


What really irks me is how Daphne got so involved in this "grief" for Angelo, but Bay's feelings over her biological father's death _and_ over Daphne acting out and also hurting Bay were never considered by her. I'm not surprised by that, but it just goes to show how self-involved Daphne is.

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Angelo& Daphne spent more time together especially in the episodes leading up to his death than he did with Bay,Bay Evfn admitted in his death episode" he was right across the driveway but I really went over to spend time with him"

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Angelo& Daphne spent more time together especially in the episodes leading up to his death than he did with Bay,Bay Evfn admitted in his death episode" he was right across the driveway but I really went over to spend time with him"


Daphne spending more time than Bay with Angelo is no great feat, considering Bay spent NO time with the man.

But, the time Daphne spent with him, she was criticizing him unmercifully. Just a few episodes before his death, Daphne had this to say to Angelo:

ANGELO:"Have you seen Christy?"
DAPHNE:"She left."
ANGELO: "She, she left? Why didn't you tell me?"
DAPHNE: "Because I have things to do too. This is my place, not yours."
ANGELO: "I'm sorry, I..."
DAPHNE: "Do you know that I have been trying all night to meet with a doctor about a pre-med program, and now I've missed him? And why? Because I was too busy setting up your food, talking to your boss and getting you free medical care."
ANGELO: "I had no idea."
DAPHNE: "Of course not! Because all you ever think about is yourself."

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BAY Lived with him and Regina over the Summer! But Angelo wasnt even a main character in the season, he showed up later in the season.

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Daphne spending more time than Bay with Angelo is no great feat, considering Bay spent NO time with the man.


As Junkeyemails said, Bay spent a whole summer with him. I loved the family dance scene with her, Regina and Angelo.

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I loved Angelo and the father daughter relationship he was developing with Daphne. I was sorry when they killed the character off.

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They were starting to get close. He admitted to her that the reason he left was "a little" because she went deaf - he was honest with her. Honesty is rare with these people. And she blamed Regina because the doctor said that being angry could have triggered the aneurysm - and she was there when Regina went bat-crap on him just before he drove away, angry. That's why she blamed Regina. Remember too, she's a teenager. She's not always going to react in a mature way. I think people expect these characters to be perfect. A lot of the characters are kids, and the parents aren't perfect either, because hey, nobody is. ;)

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Because she is a bitch

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