Why have a nuetral zone?


That's just asking for trouble right? Why the Germans or Japanese did not want it? Thanks

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buffer states I guess.

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It's a buffer.

It prevents the Nazis and Japan from border fights, and it's a lot of land area that doesn't need to be covered. It has little in the way of offensive perks and is dependent on both nations to survive.

It's only weird because there haven't been too many times that there were only 2 countries dominating the entire world, but buffers aren't unusual and where they don't exist there's some kind of military zone.

So it's the opposite of asking for trouble despite it providing a slender measure of hope for Americans & resistance.

If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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It just seems like a place where people can gather and organize against the authorities, especially with no law enforcement to curb them

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This is true, but it organizes outside of the places it needs to be. At best it's a drop off between Japan and Nazis, but the real action has to happen where the occupations are.

The neutral has no resources of its own so it doesn't make much sense to take what's needed for a revolution to the Neutral Zone only to take it back to the places the resistance needs them. The Neutral Zone is the least important place for a rebellion.

If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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no resources? they got hotels , gas stations, diners, running water, electricity, free wi-fi, etc... what else resources do you need?

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They have those things sparingly. It's basically a big, rocky ghetto.

Further, their infrastructure remains dependent on Japan & Germany.

Neutral Zone exists solely because it is allowed to exist. It's not a threat.

However, I imagine as a plot point one day it will be the thing that is wiped out as an example of military might. It's too undeveloped to not be used for that kind of thing.

If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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I guess you could call it a buffer, but I would expect that both the Germans and Japanese recognized how difficult it would be to invade and occupy the Rocky Mountains so they agreed to leave it alone rather than sacrifice the needed resources. It’s basically the same reason that Hitler never did anything with Switzerland. Switzerland is easy to defend, heavily mountainous terrain with a well-armed populace much like what is found in the mountains of the American west.

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I was thinking of the Switzerland analogy, too. It probably isn't worth the trouble and has a lot of people who are willing to fight like crazy to stay free.

It's also probably wise not to have high concentrations of their troops right next to each other guarding both sides of a border as long as they want a semblance of peace.

Politically, it makes a power bloc seem reasonable by tolerating neutral areas. Again, once total war between Germany and Japan starts, it doesn't matter, but while there is some attempt at peace, it's probably good to tolerate some independent states and regions.

Switzerland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and Ireland probably remained neutral and most of the Latin American countries not taken over by one of the two sides. In the book there was a thing about a big reservation type of place for remaining Slavs where they lived a low tech agrarian lifestyle and followed their own traditions. I would guess that this serves as a neutral zone in the east as it would be somewhere in western Asia.

The American Neutral Zone probably does cause some trouble by providing a haven for rebels, but the advantages of having it outweigh the costs and the expense of conquering it would be absurd until one side has nearly total global power.

It's also probably a place where misfits who simply want to be left alone and wouldn't come back to fight run off to. This neutralizes (no pun intended) the more individualistic potential rebels who would fight if their back was to the wall, but would prefer a cabin in the woods and quiet.

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It's also probably a place where misfits who simply want to be left alone and wouldn't come back to fight run off to.
This is probably the primary reason.

Rebels don't want to be there unless they lost. Otherwise, it serves no purpose as a rebellion base. They need to be where the enemy is. Even the man in the high castle wasn't stationed there.

If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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Fatethemagnificent very good point about Hitler leaving Switzerland alone.


http://www.amazon.com/Save-Send-Delete-Danusha-Goska/dp/1846949866

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Another reason for buffer states: drugs, prostitution, gambling.

think of the role Cuba served for the US before Castro. (This is not an endorsement of Castro)

High minded, Christian American men could go to Cuba and hire prostitutes and drink and gamble.

I never read Dick's book so I don't know if he goes there.

http://www.amazon.com/Save-Send-Delete-Danusha-Goska/dp/1846949866

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ha i was going to create this topic earlier but i started thinking about it and realized it was a buffer like others are mentioning, so i didn't create one.
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From what we've seen from the maps, it looks like there's a neutral zone in South America and an Asian one (a big chunk of China and Russia), so they seem to have them anywhere the Reich and the Empire border.

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A neutral zone provides a buffer to prevent an unintended incident from turning into a war.
Also a Surprise attack is harder to achieve because of the time crossing the buffer zone.

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did you read what you wrote? you make no sense bro




You said it yourself. Bitch, we're the Guardians of the Galaxy!

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Yes, it does. Imagine a border with tens of thousands of Nazi troops and the same number of Japanese troops guarding their side of a barbed wire fence.

They'd be bored. Their only job would be making sure no unauthorized travelers cross checkpoints or sneak around them. They don't like each other and they're right in each other's faces all the time having to cooperate.

But let's say these are perfectly disciplined troops who would never do anything they weren't supposed to. What if an officer or high ranking government official actually tries to start a war? Would they obey legitimate-seeming orders to fire on each other?

We even see an example of this. When the new Chancellor was trying to attack Japanese territory, he ordered troops in the American Reich to start moving toward the Pacific states. If the Pacific States had been right over a border they were standing next to, the war would have started immediately.




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dude did you read what you wrote dude? it makes no sense bro

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What part(s) of that comment did not make sense to you?

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Why can't you seem to understand him, nor explain why you don't understand? To me it makes perfect sense.

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It makes perfect sense, but then again you're just trolling.

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The NZ makes some sense given the thinly disguised hostility the Empire and Reich feel for each other.

They exist in the present world. Think of the DMZ in Korea. Or the line that divides Greek speaking Cyprus from the region occupied by Turkey in the 70s.

That hostility between Japan and Germany probably started to grow as soon the guns fell silent and the world was at the feet of the victors; they came to recognize that the world was too small for TWO master races.

But, the difference between contemporary dmzs and the NZs depicted in the series - in North America, Eurasia, and South America - is the depicted sizes. The dmzs in our world are essentially borders; the dmz in Korea is 1km wide along its whole length from coast to coast. But, the NZs in the show are large enough to be substantial countries all on their own even if land-locked.

That's a problem for the occupiers and their puppet states.

The NZs would have been regions into which retreating militaries, evacuated political leaders, hunted ethnic groups, simple scared refugees, national wealth (gold and silver reserves), and elements of the defense industry would have gone. If the US had an atomic program at the time of the invasion - that certainly would've been evacuated to the inter-mountain west. Along with other key assets. Even with DC gone, local military and other authorities would have directed people and stuff west away from the advancing Germans (or east away from the advancing Japanese). The Russians in the early days of retreat from the advancing Germans evacuated whole factories and armies of workers to places east of the Urals in order to sustain the Soviet Union's resistance in places safe from the Luftwaffe and the panzers.

Initially, the occupiers might decide on a compromise of the kind that would see the NZs as a pail into which to dump all the miscreants and others who might be inclined to make trouble. And, yes, the broadness of the regions would guarantee the militaries of the Empire and the Reich would be kept far apart. Important as the wartime alliance soured.

But, if left unmolested, given time to organize, dig in, and develop the resources in such large regions, the NZs could develop to such a degree such that only very large and determined military efforts would subdue them. Those kinds of large military efforts might be difficult to mount given the suspicision between the two superpowers. If the leaders of the NZ rump states were so inclined they could support large and well-armed active insurgencies. Given the potential size of the NZ economies, the occupiers might be inclined to try and come to some accommodation with the NZs especially in efforts directed at the other superpower. The NZs might even win some degree of political recognition.

But the sizes depicted on the maps we've seen on the series, by the 60s should be too well fortified and armed for casual entry by police or military forces of the occupiers. And maybe even more...such as the development of an indigenous "Heisenberg Device" by the Eurasian or North American neutral zones...

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Well, people need to go on vacation every now and then, right? All this nazi *beep* the sushi, the rice... Kinda gets on your nerves, right? People need a place for recreation. So they go to the neutral zone.

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