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Mr. Tagomi's world-switching is inconsistant with everyone else


There are duplicates of other people in the two worlds (e.g. Juliana), but there's only one Tagomi, who must be absent in one when present in the other (his "benders"). Yet people in both sides have lifelong memories of him. Any way this makes sense or is it just sloppy plotting?

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I think the Tagomi of that world is dead. There was talk of a big family argument followed by him leaving the house and Juliana finding him on the Golden Gate Bridge. He refused to talk to her and she lost track of him. He probably committed suicide.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if travel requires both the innate talent for doing it and the existence of an alternate universe where you are dead.

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The alternate San Fran Tagomi killed himself. We don't know yet whether or not your alternate being dead is a requirement for traveling between timelines.

Tagomi's assistant survived the atom bomb in the alternate timeline and traveled to the show's main timeline. We can assume that the version of himself in that timeline died somehow but it has not been addressed yet.

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It was said in the bonus clips of Season 2 that your alternate had to be dead before you could travel to that reality.

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but he's *not* dead there...look at him gluing the baby cup together, lecturing his son about being Japanese etc, without anybody aghast at him seemingly rising back from the dead? Or do I misunderstand??

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Juliana didn't actually see him jump. She tried one last time to make peace with him on or near the bridge and he walked away. Then he came back with a different attitude (actually being the nicer alternate universe Tagomi). He jumped, but his body was never found. He'd also probably gone away for a while when angry before, so the family was used to it.

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Yet people in both sides have lifelong memories of him.
Tagomi existed in both worlds.

In the normal reality, Tagomi is assumed to be dead, but is at least missing so the Tagomi we know was easily able to slide in as replacement.

If I were you, I'd wanna be me too.

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There was a Tagomi in the Cuban Missile Crisis timeline too. Based on the comments from the Cuban Missile Crisis version of Juliana about having lost him in the fog on the bridge and thinking he jumped, we're pretty clearly intended to infer that the Cuban Missile Crisis Tagomi committed suicide, which conveniently creates an opening for "our" Tagomi to cross over without risk of meeting his alternate universe double.

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Don't forget that his wife had divorce documents drawn up for him to sign. So she probably did not think he was dead, just left after an argument.

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