Whres Winston Chruchill
seriously?
shareSpent his remaining days in a bunker back in the 40s. Smoked a cigar laced with cyanide to avoid capture.
He and band hardcore troops where still fighting around Burma or somewhere in the Southwestern Asia
shareYea, I could see that. He'd slow them down as far as practical matters go, but they wouldn't have the will to keep fighting without his inspirational speeches.
I'll amend my scenario to have him drunkenly fight it out to the death when the Nazi troops invade his bunker, dressed in a nice suit, smoking a cigar, wielding a Tommy gun.
wasnt there a scene with two Englishman wearing Nazi swastikas ? What I find curious is there is no mention of Europe whatsoever. Could it be in this alternate universe Germany never invaded Poland ? I get the impression Germany invaded Russia (because of the shock of Russian beating Germany in the films) and the France, England etc were on the side of Germany ?
or I`m totally wrong.
maybe I need to read the book.
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wasnt there a scene with two Englishman wearing Nazi swastikas ?
I don't remember, but there would definitely be a lot of English Nazis in England in that universe.
What I find curious is there is no mention of Europe whatsoever. Could it be in this alternate universe Germany never invaded Poland ? I get the impression Germany invaded Russia (because of the shock of Russian beating Germany in the films) and the France, England etc were on the side of Germany ?
I would have loved have heard more about the rest of Europe, but it probably just wasn't part of the plot and hard to work in without being didactic. That's a risk with extensive world-building.
I think Western Europe fell much faster, and the conquest of Russia was planned out much better.
It's also my pet theory (somewhat similar to yours, but I think the British and French resisted at first) that in this universe, Nazism had more international appeal. The ideological elements about racial superiority of certain people regardless of nationality were emphasized and enforced more consistently.
Thus, as with Communism, there would be more people in power and people on the street in Western Europe and North America who would want to be part of this new utopian society. They wouldn't be a majority, but there would be enough of them to tip the balance in the Nazis' favor and probably provide a significant number of backup troops.
The book is different in some ways from the show and in any case doesn't really describe the war in much more detail (with a few exceptions). The Slavs were considered inferior, but allowed to live in an area set aside for them in western Asia, which I guess is that big space like the Neutral Zone but in the Asia on the school map in the show.
The book also had an Italian Empire aligned with the Reich and implied the existence of a few neutral European nations which I wish they'd preserved for the show. share
or I`m totally wrong.
maybe I need to read the book.
The TV show differs from the book quite a bit, except for general premise and some characters (even the characters with the in the book differ from their TV counterparts wit the same name). Therefore, the book may not be of help.
Interestingly, in the nook, the "alternate world" describe by the Man in the High Castle in his novel "The Grasshopper Lies Heavy", is not really our world, either. In that alternate world described in that supposedly fictional book written by The Man in the High Castle, while the U.S. and the Brits won the war, the British Empire grows more and more powerful, eventually becoming something of an aggressor and an imperialist power.
But to clarify to people who never read the Phillip K. Dick book, that's the plot of the "book within a book" named "The Grasshopper Lies Heavy (which is analogous to the films in the TV version -- i.e., it is a glimpse at an alternate reality that no one knows about). The plot of Phillip K. Dick's book is still that the Japanese and Germans control most of the world.
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