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Thoughts and speculations before series finale (spoilers)

posted 9 years ago by amherstwhisky
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Spoilers ahead ...

1. The killer knows how to deliver a baby. Not something anyone could do. Gustav, who is seen working at the hospital, is the only one who could potentially have the knowledge to assist at birth based on what we know. Then again I think he has an alibi for Jeanette's abduction.

2. The last crime scene where Annika was supposed to be killed was a recreation of the basement room in the foster home. All five children told the police that room was locked and they never went there. So the killer is someone who knows the room from the inside. Someone who lived in it, probably. When the foster couple was killed and they discovered the room, Henrik said that it looked like someone had lived there. It can't be a coincidence that this keeps resurfacing.

3. It could be that Freddie is the father of more than one character. He could be the father of Emil and Rasmus or of all the foster children. Remember that Annika's father is unknown - maybe it's Freddie. This would also be great irony: Freddie spent years yearning for a child while five of his children were growing up without a father.

4. I think the killer is/are one of the following:

Rasmus
Emil and Rasmus
All the foster children working together

5. To me Rasmus is more suspect than Emil, but I can't write off Emil for these reasons:

- I think his injuries earlier in the series were too light, possibly self-inflicted
- his version of childhood events differs from Gustav's in important details that give Annika a motive for revenge.

6. It's also interesting that the killer has been getting "sloppy" (Jeanette and Annika were found before he could kill them) ever since Rasmus started doing field work on the case. Not enough time to finish the job?

[–] Izzyennygood 9 years ago

I must confess that I am less interested in "who is the killer" than I am in Saga's future. She has signed her statement re her mother demise and as the investigator told her, there is another case pending which might condemn her. Her failure to search the guy who shot Jon's daughter. Linn seems determined to curb her individuality, at the least. She gives Saga as little support as she can get away with and no doubt has told HR she is an accident waiting to happen.. A scenario that has Henrik seething and she is looking a little shell-shocked, at the moment. She may very well decide that she can't continue at Malmo Police Station with things the way they are. Maybe she'll set herself up as a PI or move to another country and give us more entertainment in
Le Bridge
Das Bridge
El Bridge
De Brug
Il Porte
or whatever

[–] zeppo1841 9 years ago

Or maybe this will be the last season, and the final shot will be of Saga stepping into an unknown future.

[–] zeppo1841 9 years ago

A couple of thoughts:

-Gustav's alibi has not yet been confirmed. I am still considering him to be a suspect, despite what we
saw at the end of E09.

-I'm still having trouble buying the theory of Rasmus as the killer. There has been absolutely no
indication of any sort that he is anything more than an "incompetent colleague".

-We have only seen three of the foster children in the series...Emil, Gustav, and Annika. I wouldn't
be surprised to learn that all three were involved in the murders.

-Emil's injuries could not have been self-inflicted IMO. He was bleeding from both ears, and had
been branded like the other victims. But if one of his associates had been responsible for the
beating, I can't see what the motivation would have been.

-I'm pretty sure that the killer had no interest in Jeanette once the baby had been delivered. She
was never supposed to be a victim.

[–] amherstwhisky 9 years ago

Indeed, the killer's target was the baby, but he might want to kill Jeanette for the same reason he killed Morten: too dangerous to keep them alive. What if she remembered something that could identify him?

[–] highway_1-937-915849 9 years ago

i tend to agree with your views. I think Emil is definitely not acting alone and I have the feeling he's being helped by all the other foster children. A few days more to find out... Excruciating wait!

I think Rasmus is a dick but he has nothing to do with the killings but he lied big time when he was asked if he had any grudge against Saga. He obviously hates her.

I was convinced Emil was the culprit but when I watched episode 6 again, I had doubts. He seems really surprised at the art work in the museum after finding out the details of the murders from the press conference. It seems genuine. So, did he contact another person he suspected did this and offered his help? Annika? Gustav? Someone else? But then again only Emil is connected to Hans as far as we know, unless there is another reason...

All points to hurting Freddie because he did not claim his children from the sperm donations at the clinic. Somehow the children found out and are seeking revenge.

We care more about Saga and Henrik's personal lives. Don't we? We need closure on those at well, Tak Smukke.

[–] StandardDeviation 9 years ago

I'd be well pissed if it turns out every Larsson in the script is related but I suspect that'll be the case.

There are way too many intersections between these officers and the crimes they solve for this to considered anything more than a farce.

Which is probably why Bodnia opted out of the series after reading the script.

Blocking anyone subscribing to the moronic alpha/beta tripe.

[–] amherstwhisky 9 years ago

I also hoped that after season 1 they would not repeat the "this (ex) cop is also the killer" trope.

[–] Ingeborgen 9 years ago

1. It is not that hard to deliver a baby. And in this case he/she didn't care what ever happened to the mother.
2. I think Annika was just put there to be out of the way after Emil made her the prime suspect. I don't think she was meant to die.
3. Annikas unknown father is a strange thing. But that must be the thing that he didn't care for his kids before.
4. Rasmus has nothing to do with the murders, he is just an incompetent cop.
5. When Emil realized they where on to him he did what he could to put the blame on Annika.
6. Jeanette was not important, she just got involved for carrying the baby. And Annika was not meant to be killed, just put away so Emil could by some time to get the baby and his revenge.

What is really bothering me is the basement room. It can't have be Emil living there coz he knew the others. Or was he put there after he tried to run away?

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[–] amherstwhisky 9 years ago

How would Annika prevent Emil from getting the baby?

[–] Ingeborgen 9 years ago

The police was on to Emil so he had to fake his injures and put the blame on Annika. That's why he had to hide her so the police would not find her. The story he told about the foster-parents was different from the one Gustav told the police.

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[–] zeppo1841 9 years ago

How would Annika prevent Emil from getting the baby?

Annika needed to be neutralized so that Emil (and possible accomplices) could make her
house appear to be a crime scene. Moving all of those lights, branding materials, and human
body parts into her home, where the police would eventually find them, required that Annika not
be around.

[–] theOverlord 9 years ago

The gym teacher only molested girls, as far as we know. That seems to suggest that Emil and Annika are working together (before he sold her out), because I don't see his motive for killing the teacher otherwise.

[–] Ingeborgen 9 years ago

Are we sure about that?
That was what Emil told the police when he wanted to frame Annika.

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[–] theOverlord 9 years ago

I was speaking too soon, evidently. :)