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Can someone explain (spoilers for the finale)


So Emil is the murderer but why did we see him bound to a chair and bloodied in episode 8 (I think)?

Who did that to him?

If the opposite of Love is indifference, what's the opposite of Hate?

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So Emil is the murderer but why did we see him bound to a chair and bloodied in episode 8 (I think)?

Who did that to him?



This is one of several events that occurred in S03 that were left unexplained. Some
posters on this board have speculated that Emil physically injured himself so that Saga and
Henrik would no longer consider him to be a suspect. If this was the case, he was never
actually bound to the chair as we were shown.

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Well, that's really annoying then.
I don't mind all the red herrings, but to actually show him tied up and bound to a chair is basically a big "eff you" to the audience if it never happened.
Reducing my rating down to 4/10 due to this stupidity.

If the opposite of Love is indifference, what's the opposite of Hate?

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He was never tied to a chair in reality. We only see this because of what he tells Saga and Henrik, so they pictured it while he recounts the "events" that he indeed faked. And seeing what the guy is capable of, I did not think it unrealistic that he would go to that extend to fake his attack. On the contrary, I thought it was really clever because we all doubted for a while after that scene. That was the exact purpose in true Bron/Broen style. Not stupid at all IMO, but brilliant!

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Everything is brilliant about Bron!
They don't do stupid mistakes like they do in the US series. That's why it takes two years to make it.

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>>I thought it was really clever because we all doubted for a while after that scene.

Speak for yourself. It made me immediately nail him as the killer. Such a clichéd bit of misdirection. Speaking of Genre Thriller Stalwarts 101: The captive bashing the bad guy over the head but inexplicably making a run for it instead of finishing him off allowing the bad guy to regroup and chase down with deadly weapon. (groan.) The SWAT (or whatever) team raiding a house and the misdirection that those in the basement are alerted to that particular intrusion (groan groan.)

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Speaking of Genre Thriller Stalwarts 101: The captive bashing the bad guy over the head but inexplicably making a run for it instead of finishing him off allowing the bad guy to regroup and chase down with deadly weapon. (groan.)


That annoyed me a bit as well. But to be fair to Freddie, he probably did not anticipate that he was being held on Saltholm. He really thought he would be able to make a run for it.

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Let us also not forget the old "he's just committed suicide in his cell" Stalwart 101. Western police stations are always so unfathomably lax when it comes to looking after their high profile media serial killers.

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First, Freddie was just a normal guy and he probably did not want to kill someone. This is not like the American movie where people always shot first and then think.
Second, he only wanted to save the baby and of course he thought he would find some people outside.
Third, if he had killed him there would not have be so fun for us to watch.


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Ugh, Freddie not killing Emil NOR taking his gun was the worst of the worst for me. I was metaphorically rolling my eyes, "In a few minutes, Emil is going to reappear and confront Freddie again." Stuuuuupid. Surely THIS show can do better.

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^^ that was ridiculous for me too, as was Emil killing himself so soon after being apprehended. A serial killer who was arrested while trying to hang himself would not be able to keep a paperclip as he'd be on constant obs for days if not weeks


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He stole that paperclip from Saga, she was unstable and out of focus the last couple of eps because of Hans death and didn't notice, and I doubt anyone searched Emil or his cell after Saga left, cuz she is the best of the best. I think he rammed that paperclip in his throath pretty much right after the door closed behind Saga as she left.

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I understand what happened; it just was not realistic because he would have been searched and under constant observation for that very reason. he was a very high suicide risk.

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Everything about Emil was explained in the last episode.

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the literary device used is called 'the unreliable narrator'. they shot the 'flashback' scene in a different style. it didn't actually progress 'real-time' on the screen. it was only his account of what happened. could have turned out the be true, but didn't. there's nothing inconsistent here.

what i don't get is the over-the-top ruse devised by emil to implicate annika and get himself removed from the suspect list. so he sat around in annika's basement for a whole day until he heard firetruck sirens, an ice cream truck's jingle, and school chilren singing or whatever and was pretty sure, nay, 100% sure, that the police would figure out what house he was in based on these three extremely vague and common clues. WTF??!? they triangulated an area based on sirens being heard, ice cream truck, and children's voices, and not even at the same time, perhaps hours and hours apart. newton couldn't hold a candle to this john guy in Bron. that area has god knows how many houses and they somehow isolate annika's house. was her name even on record at that point in the case? ridiculous.

it would have been much simpler, not to mention failsafe, if emil simply said, "i was abducted by annika, whom I knew from foster home, her house was in this area, she kept me there but then drugged me and then i found myself in that field - by the way - she's a red herring and i'm the actual killer, the whole point is an overly-theatrical serial killing spree to attract attention to myself and all the sufferring I endured" sheesh!!!

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Was it Annika's basement? I thought we saw Henrik climb stairs into a spare upstairs room or attic? What I found unbelievable was that Emil had time to fit out the entire room with all the stuff (seals, etc.) that he had used in the murders.

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