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What a convoluted MESS (some spoilers)

posted 12 years ago by akademic78
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A fan of Bioschock here. Ken Levine, you reading this? SLAP YOURSELF. If you can't figure out a SATISFYING TWIST (like SystemShock and Bioshock 1,)don't promise anything "mind blowing". Because Infinite has the most LAZY, LAZY, LAZY cop-out ending I've seen in a while.

Multiverse? REALLY, Ken? That's it? Well, isn't that convenient! Multiverse allows you to justify absolutely anything, anywhere, be it something that makes sense or doesn't.

What a let down.

Come back with System Shock 3.

[–] Adept34501 12 years ago

It wasn't exactly out of the blue or convoluted.

[–] Colyn1006 12 years ago

This is why we can't have nice things.

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[–] HarryRidgway 12 years ago

I agree the ending is confusing as hell but the point still stands that this is one of the greatest games ever made.

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Rushmore. 8.5/10
Flight. 10/10
The Experiment (2010). 8/10

[–] akademic78 12 years ago

Uh... No, no. Nowhere have I said it's in any way "confusing". And please, keep your childish "one of the greatest games" remarks to yourself, they do nothing but embarrass you. System Shock, Bioshock, Half-Life - absolutely. But this? Lol. Shall we go through the differences between what was advertised and what we got in the end? Please. . .

[–] HarryRidgway 12 years ago

Speaking of childish, that was certainly an immature response...

But fine, if you didn't say it was confusing, then I do.

And yes, I do believe it was one of the greatest games ever created. And I personally feel that the Bioshock series is the greatest game series made. But these are not facts, they're just my opinions and I know you will disagree and have your opinion which is good...

I think what we got advertised and what we eventually got may have it's differences but I think it always stuck to it's main themes which make the game -- the combat, the city and the characters...

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Last seen films:

Rushmore. 8.5/10
Flight. 10/10
The Experiment (2010). 8.5/10

[–] akademic78 12 years ago

Not really.

The city: advertised open sky-hook. End product: closed-circuit sky-hook in like, 2-3 areas.

Characters: advertised UNPRECEDENTED AI from Elizabeth. End product: Lol. . . She just throws you some ammo.

Game: advertised "mind-blowing" finale. End product: a cop-out ending that can justify pretty much any stupidity. An illusion of choice that leads to no resolution.

I understand your opinions, and I'm trying to FACTUALLY point out why they have little to no ground at all.

[–] HarryRidgway 12 years ago

It's good you understand my opinions, and I understand yours. I think we both agree about the skyhooks. They felt limited and the concept could and should have been explored much more...

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Last seen films:

Rushmore. 8.5/10
Flight. 10/10
The Experiment (2010). 8.5/10

[–] narva24 11 years ago

It's the batman/inception era - trying to understand why people rate things the way they do is utterly pointless. In today's society, the average person reasons with his gut - the imdb scores for most things reflect that sort of 'thinking' process.

[–] Marjeez 12 years ago

You say this person is embarrassing yet you can't accept someone else's opinion.
Most people love the story/ending, so no point in arguing your point when it's a matter of minority opinion.

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[–] akademic78 12 years ago

lol. I'm not arguing anything, I'm pointing out the obvious. Yeah. . . "most people" are who? And who cares if most people are a gullible mass of tasteless kids? Please.

[–] Marjeez 12 years ago

Wow.. you're an idiot. Just shut the *beep* up lol

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[–] akademic78 12 years ago

Well, it's pretty clear you're a clueless troll, since you can't say anything sensible in defence of this product. Keep walking.

[–] Marjeez 12 years ago

defense*

Now go suck some d cus that's what you're good at.

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[–] escalade213 12 years ago

Both of you do nothing to defend the game or bash it in any real way you just state your opinions and call each other kids or D suckers. instead of acting like idiots why can't you just state plain and simple what you didn't like and what makes the game "trash" and not have to call anyone an idiot who doesn't agree and samething goes for the people who call it a "masterpiece"

instead of saying "most people liked it" who cares tell me why it's awesome to you.

and instead of saying everyone who liked the game is a gullible child which comes off as pretentious and c'mon childish, tell me why fracken why you didn't like the game and leave it at that.

and maybe both elaborate a little because we aren't mind readers.
yes I'd like to know why the game sucks to you or why it's amazing.

and c'mon don't waste this opportunity I actually wanna know what you have to say opinion wise about the game, does that really happen often? OP and you to Marjeez.

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[–] Marjeez 12 years ago

... because I'm not wasting my time with a moron. As you can tell I haven't had a serious discussion with this d-bag because you can tell he/she/it is a troll.

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[–] escalade213 12 years ago

yeah I agree this guy is a bit of an ass thinking he's better than everyone who actually liked the game or thinks that everyone who did is a child personally I'm thinking hipster and if so why don't you jump into a volcano before it's cool.

but i'm still curious why you like the game Marjeez I've beaten the game but have had no one to discuss it with. all i've seen are flame wars.

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[–] akademic78 12 years ago

Oh please, hahahahah. Marjeez, go F yourself you child, I haven't called you names and you did, so keep walking.

And escalade, read my first post in which it's pretty EFFING EVIDENT what my points about this game are.

Geez, you clowns can't even read, then accuse ME of being an ass. Ahahhaah. What a damn joke.

[–] akademic78 12 years ago

So I laid everything out in the first post, then you come along and say "Why you argue? Most people like it!!" like the child that you are, and call ME a troll?

Hhahahahahah.

Say something else. It's amusing.

[–] akademic78 12 years ago

"go suck on sum d's cus thats what youre good at"

And then tells me about trolling. Lmaoooo.

You're an embarrassment.

[–] escalade213 12 years ago

hardly an opinion all you say is that Multiverses are lazy. you are a troll anyways goodbye troll

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[–] HockeyFan91 11 years ago

What does Mark Messier have to do with any of this?

FCT

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[–] djs-p52 11 years ago

How is it a cop-put when it is introduced in the beginning of the game.