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I am so upset.

posted 11 years ago by ryanpaul45
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I bought the first two Bioschock games (only played the first, never finished the second.) to replay them, then play this. I just beat the second and now I'm finding out this has nothing to do with the first 2. It's just set in the same universe, and we 'briefly' see Rapture.

UGhjhjghukgihjll why????? Why even call it a Bioschock game? what is the point of attaching this to the franchise? Cut out the Rapture part, and just call it "Columbia Infinite" or something...

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[–] SnakeyJ 11 years ago

So you couldn't tell from the cover of the game that it was going to be different? And if you actually took the time to understand the ending you'd realise that they are set in the same game world but exist in different universes.

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[–] ryanpaul45 11 years ago

I understood the ending fine. I don't know what that has to do with knowing details about the third. since a third wasn't made until 3 years later

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[–] MaxPaynefan187 11 years ago

But theres a reason why this game wasnt called Bioshock 3, and instead called Bioshock:Infinite. Your fault for not doing any research about the game before buying it. While the rest of the world knew since the first trailer that was released back in 2010 that this game was going to be different from the first two. It's even more amazing at how Ken Levine made that there are refrences and attachments to the original Bioshock games. Why complain? Infinite was purely amazing, from start to finish.

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[–] ryanpaul45 11 years ago

Yeah, but Bioshock 2 wasn't going to be called Bioshock 2. It was just going to be Bioshock: Sea of Dreams.

Look, it's a Bioschock game. I knew it didn't take place in Rapture, I knew there were new characters. I thought maybe it had connection with the first two games since, oh I don't know, a Bioshock game... THe only place I found out it had no connection with the first 2 was in the FAQ on this game.

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[–] MaxPaynefan187 11 years ago

Cause you're not seeing the big picture here. The way the game ends is with a complete instruction of how the original Bioshock game's universe is connected to Bioshock Infinite, and its amazing how they did it. Also, why would they keept in Rapture? Ken Levine wanted to wow people again, giving that jaw dropping experience people had with the original Bioshock. The only way to do that was to create a new world, with new characters and a new storyline. But it's still amazing how he connected both universes together.

And really? Like there were many subtle refrences in Bioshock Infinte that echoed the original games:

Handyman/Song Bird = Big Daddy
Relationship of little sisters and Big Daddy = Elizabth and Song Bird's relationship
Vigors = Plasmids

Dont get how anyone can say it wasnt a Bioshock game when almost everything about Infinite made it seem just like a Bioshock game.

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[–] ryanpaul45 11 years ago

I knew it didn't take place in Rapture, but I just read it has no connection with the first 2 games story wise. Not really a trilogy in my opinion.

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[–] MaxPaynefan187 11 years ago

All games or movies that are trilogys always have a numerical numbering in them, e.g. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Uncharted 2:Among Theives, Uncharted 3:Drake's Deception.

Therefore, Bioshock was and never will be a trilogy. You still dont get it. It was never meant to be a continuation of Bioshock 1 or 2, it's an entirely different universe that just so happens to conexist in the same universe as the original 2.

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[–] ryanpaul45 11 years ago

Dude, I know. You just told me I don't get as you repeated what I just said.

Therefore, Bioshock was and never will be a trilogy. You still dont get it. It was never meant to be a continuation of Bioshock 1 or 2, it's an entirely different universe that just so happens to conexist in the same universe as the original 2.

I knew this already. That's what I was upset about. When I found out it wasn't connected to the first 2.

and no, they don't always have a number in the title.

Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises..

The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolutions...

Batman: Arkham Asylum, Batman: Arkham City, Batman: Arkham Origins

Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed 2, Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood, Assassin's Creed: Revelations.

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[–] MaxPaynefan187 11 years ago

But they still were borderline trilogies, Bioshock was never slated to be a trilogy. And there is no reason for you to be upset about it anyways, the game was just amazing as the first two.

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[–] ryanpaul45 11 years ago

yeah you might be right. Still will be a good game regardless.

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[–] Pyrrhus65 11 years ago

It's not a trilogy. 2 wasn't even made by Irrational, you could argue that it's non canon. 1 and Infinite are just two games that take place in the same world, the name Bioshock does NOT equal Rapture. Get over yourself.

Buy Burial at Sea, it connects the two storylines wonderfully.

I will not be a page in someone else's history book.

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[–] paveld78 11 years ago

Dear Ryan,

we really cannot protect your from yourself.

There has been talks about the game for at least 12 months before it released, and videos for at least 6 months.

Videos from Bioshock 1/2 are readily available online. You HAVE TO DO YOUR RESEARCH if you do not want to burn your money.

Here's the kicker: Bioshock 1 might have easily been called System Shock 3, the only reason it is not is because they don't have the license to use that name (they made System Shock 1 and System Shock 2). BioShock was a way to link to the "Shock" from "System Shock".

There are things very similar to Bioshock 1/2 in BS:I -- the vigors (= "plasmids"), the vending machines, the recordings (voxaphones), and pretty much the style of quests ("go there, fetch something, rescue someone, oh shucks, he's dead, ok, get back here...").

Plus, Bioshock Infinite DLC Burial at Sea will take place back in Rapture, completing the circle.

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[–] germanii 11 years ago

It is a Bioshock game because it uses the same gameplay model; RPG/First person shooter with a gun in one hand and magic powers (plasmas/tonics) in the other. It really is the same game for all intents and purposes but set in a different location.
Who cares about the nomenclature. It was still a great game.

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[–] MaximumMadness 11 years ago

It does have many connections with the original game, beyond just seeing Rapture for a few moments.

The reason it features the BioShock moniker is that Ken Levine (the lead artistic force on this game and the original) considers the name "BioShock" to be more of a concept than a specific game's settings or storyline. He said that a BioShock game is defined by the player exploring some sort of vast, fantasical setting, and the player using unique tools/abilities to make it through the game. He basically confirmed that he doesn't consider the name "BioShock" to specifically refer to Rapture or the storyline from the original game.

And FURTHERMORE, this is my signature! SERIOUSLY! Did you think I was still talking about my point?

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