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Why not just cast a homosexual lead?


So, Americans play Brits, Brits play Americans; Women have played men and vica versa; White men have played Black men and Black men have played white chicks. Gay men have played straight men and vica versa. I'm not ostensibly saying that it is wrong that Mark Ruffalo (being a straight man), being cast as the lead in this is wrong.

I'm not bashing Mark Ruffalo here; even though I think there were times where he played the part well, yet there where times he played the part totally cliche'd and over-exuberant. Whilst watching this film, I couldn't help but think 'This is Mark Ruffalo, trying to act gay'. I couldn't take him seriously. Perhaps I'm not watching this film as I should be, perhaps I'm being too critical...

Now, to put a bit of texture as to the angle that I'm coming in here. Whilst apples and oranges, are in fact, apples and oranges. When I see a film, and I see, for instance, a person acting the part of either a demographic, an archetype, heritage or cultural background that I am a member of. I look for how they represent me as a subset. Example; I am a Scouser, from a region in the north-west of England called Liverpool. I have Irish heritage, I am from a working class background and I would identify myself as a non-religious, left-of-centre, Dyslexic male. On occasion, I have seen people from all walks of life, portray one of any number of associations that I align myself with. Some (in my opinion), good, and some bad. What defines as good and bad is obviously subjective; however, when I see someone portray in a way where I can see that they are attempting to 'act' in a way that the vast majority will recognize. I wonder if there was/is someone within that subset that I associate myself with, who could represent the part in a way that isn't artifice.

I understand the concept of Drama and Acting, so it's not as I am ignorant to the art-form. I have a HNC in Performing Arts, a Degree in Drama and a Masters in Fiction Writing. So I'm not being a bore here. I understand that Home Box Office will want to get someone to do the job who will perhaps do the best job that they can. I understand that HBO want to get someone with gravitas and standing who will take on the part. I know that the writer or producer (Or Director and creative lead), may want this piece of be acted in a certain way.

So with all this, I still ask myself, why not just cast a homosexual lead?

Okay, so Tom Hanks is not gay and he played a gay part in Philadelphia. Half of the cast of Angels in America aren't gay and they played gay parts (Some are gay of course); Kevin Spacey is gay and has played many straight parts. And then there is Ian McKellan; he is gay and has played both gay and straight parts. Nathan Lane is gay and has played a straight man in a 'gay related' play. Sylar is gay and... Okay you get the picture, Hollywood goes round and around, the balance is more or less restored and the curtain is still called at the end of the day.

But in a piece of film that is so important as this, reflecting a real-life tragedy, with real people with real issues. Would it be so hard to just cast an openly gay lead?

I know the basis of argumentation and I know that differing points of view may be posited and posted to further or retort this viewpoint. I know that I may be looking at this through rose-tinted glasses and a certain degree of naivety. I know that there may be some people who may just see this as being argumentative for the sake of it. But I have a genuine *beep* question, from a genuine place, with a genuine curiosity.

So I ask again, why not just cast a homosexual lead? - What is it with people trying to get people to 'act a part' for the sake of 'artistry'?

"Oh that Mark Ruffalo, he'd be good".

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Because at the end of the day, it's still called... ACTING. That's why they give themselves awards for how well they pretend. It's no fun, no work and who would care if you're just playing yourself... like a real 'reality' show, which used to be known as a documentary (back when it was real reality, not scripted 'reality' BS).

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What a pompously idiotic reply.

Please re-read my post, you have misunderstood... Unless of course, you really think that I was suggesting a work of fiction cast what is in essence a fictitious person.

Have you even seen the film?

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from The Wrap(http://www.thewrap.com/mark-ruffalo-normal-heart-hbo-emmy-wrap-larry-k ramer/)

"As Ruffalo’s career slowly got off the ground, first with forgettable movies like “Mirror, Mirror” 2 and 3 and later with breakthrough roles in 2000’s “You Can Count on Me,” 2007’s “Zodiac” and 2010’s “The Kids Are All Right” (for which he was Oscar nominated), he never appeared in or even saw a full production of “The Normal Heart.” So he was hardly expecting a call from Ryan Murphy saying that the “Glee” creator wanted to make a movie of the play, and wanted Ruffalo for the lead role.

“I was a little perplexed by it,” Ruffalo said. “I said to Ryan, ‘Isn’t it time that a gay actor plays this part?’ And he said, ‘No, you’re missing the point of the movie. It doesn’t matter if you’re straight or gay — I want the person I think is right for the part, and that’s you.'” Ruffalo signed on both as a star and as a producer, but when he and Murphy tried to get “The Normal Heart” off the ground as a theatrical feature, their overtures were rejected again and again. “No studio wanted to make it,” he said. “They all said it was too heavy, and too much of a fringe story.”

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Ruffalo signed on both as a star and as a producer,


Right, answered.

Thanks.

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Right, answered.

Thanks.

I think you missed the point; the operative sentence/explanation was:

'I want the person I think is right for the part, and that’s you.'

The same has been true throughout filmdom, whether it's Eric McCormack being cast as the lead in Will & Grace, or Rock Hudson (whom everyone in Holllywood and even every journalist knew was gay) being cast in numerous films as the ultimate heterosexual romantic lead, and so on and so on.

Directors and producers cast the person who is right for the part, not a person who matches the sexual orientation (or whatever other characteristic) of the character.
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Yes, I agree!!

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