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black guy in lead? too much political correctness


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Now that its at Redbox, I'll check it out. Is it true that Oy is a gay, Jewish robot in this version? (thus he is still named for what he calls out all the time)

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This is not the same character as in the book. The characters race does not affect the story line in this case.

The movie "It" didn't include the child porn part of the book. Was that too politically correct?

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Peopole who are concerned with this kind of thing are more annoying than thier polar opposites. Idris Elba is a competent actor and the fact that he is black takes away nothing from the film or the original vision of the book.

Of course , he sucked in the role, but so did every other actor in this movie that usually produces decent work.

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Idris Elba being the lead in this movie doesn't even come close to being in the Top 10 of this movie's problems. I could care less if the gunslinger was black or white. I just wanted a good movie and this one was too short and not nearly effective enough.

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I only really had two issues with this, the first was if you read the books the character is white and it does matter when he encounters other characters later. And in general I prefer with western source material like the Dark Tower that they try to capture the whole look of the novels if possible. I am not rigid about this but if it does lay it out a certain way than trying to keep that is best.

The other issue is if you believe changing a characters ethnicity from say black to white is wrong, than its still true the other way around. Some people that supported Idris' casting were some of the same people you would find complaining about whitewashing. Its either wrong or it isn't.

For me its the end result that matters, when I watch the movie and I find it to be good then some of the changes won't matter If Elba is great in the role, then he is great and in the end that is all that matters. Unfortunately many people say the movie is bad, so any changes from the books or the direction of the film as some odd quasi sequel to the books will be looked at negatively.

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I only really had two issues with this, the first was if you read the books the character is white and it does matter when he encounters other characters later. And in general I prefer with western source material like the Dark Tower that they try to capture the whole look of the novels if possible. I am not rigid about this but if it does lay it out a certain way than trying to keep that is best.

The other issue is if you believe changing a characters ethnicity from say black to white is wrong, than its still true the other way around. Some people that supported Idris' casting were some of the same people you would find complaining about whitewashing. Its either wrong or it isn't.

For me its the end result that matters, when I watch the movie and I find it to be good then some of the changes won't matter If Elba is great in the role, then he is great and in the end that is all that matters. Unfortunately many people say the movie is bad, so any changes from the books or the direction of the film as some odd quasi sequel to the books will be looked at negatively.
To me, Elba's race doesn't matter a lot, although I couldn't see the point of the change.

I don't see any change from the source novel as bad because I recognize that some scenes that work well in the novel won't translate well to the screen, so a modification of that certain scene might be desirable. What I don't see as good, is when not only the plot but the basic theme is changed. That is just not necessary.

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In the books a character reactions to Roland are literally based on his race, so its not a change that served the source material or overall story well. Elba is an actor I enjoy, so I was willing to give it a go regardless. However its poor reception has placed it on the bottom of my DVD list, so it will be awhile before i see it.

When it comes to these changes its more the hypocrisy of others that bothers me. Changes are perfectly fine unless its something they don't approve of then its wrong. For me, if its western material, from the US, Canada, etc, I think they should generally follow it. For foreign adaptation from say Japan, China, India on the other hand you are just lifting the core story idea and re imagining it for a western audience, so its open for interpretation and not locked down to anything but a basic outline of the original idea.

Again if the movie is actually good, whatever changes they make is not going to make me hate it just because its different.

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Again if the movie is actually good, whatever changes they make is not going to make me hate it just because its different.
Agreed, although in general the closer the movie is to the source material, the better I (usually) like it. An example of this would be the novel Dracula[/i]. I found the 1931 Bela Lugosi effort good, but I did not like it, 1992's [i]Bram Stoker's Dracula[/i] or the Frank Langella film as much as I liked the 1977 BBC series, [i]Count Dracula[/i] with Louis Jourdan in the title role. Granted, the acting had a lot to do with opinion of the BBC's series, but the fidelity to the source novel also had a part.

There are exceptions to this. I preferred the 1950 movie to Haggard's book, [i]King Solomon's Mines
, and I liked the 1953 movie over Welles' original War of the Worlds.

So, it cuts both ways with me.

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kinda sad that the mother died

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ONly got triggered cuckservatives. Roland’s race has no bearing on he actual film, or really the story.

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