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There's a kid in friggin modern day clothes and the two main characters sitting on a bus? Might as well call this Once Upon a Time.

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Did you read the books at all? While I can't remember if the scene is straight from the pages, but I do remember Roland walking around in our 'real' world. Just as he met Jake in his, modern clothes included. Read the books, bud. Maybe your questions will be answered and you won't look like a troll.

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For *beep* sake it's not a direct telling of the books it's the next cycle so thing are different as you would expect of king wrote a new cycle it wouldn't be the same.

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Idiot, even w/ this being a different telling, I'm sure major plot points like Roland walking around New York are still in this telling. Don't jump down my throat when you are the moron not thinking about what you're replying to.

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Wasn't replying to you queef. Was replying to the op

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My apologies, thankee, Sai! I'm using the IMDB app and it doesn't make a distinction, just saw your post beneath mine.

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The director isn't vey bright and couldn't be bothered to read the books. So things like that end up in the film.
I'm sure there will be lots of forced comedy with everyone staring at Roland because of his stupid looking outfit that no one will laugh at too.

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The director...couldn't be bothered to read the books


Sourness is one thing. Lying is quite another.
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How you're still able to put up with this clueless goddam moron is beyond me Captain 

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

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I suspect Wesker is a masochist, and enjoys taunting Spider.
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Well, i'm too much of a chicken**** to try my hand at leather and whips in person, so I suppose this virtual indulgence is the next best thing .

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I can appreciate that.

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Like the archetypal stagnating Wild West town, there is not much to do around these parts...at least until the first teaser/trailer is released.

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Just stating facts. I'm not going to delude myself like you.

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It isn't a fact, though. You straight up lied.

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Didn't lie, stated facts. The director can lie all he wants about learning English to read the book but any director that casts Idris Elba as Roland has clearly never read the books in their life.
The sweeping changes just show they skimmed over Wikipedia and taken a few names.

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No, dude, you did lie. It's one thing to spew your hate, it is another to make claims of dishonesty when nothing runs to the contrary.

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No I told the truth. You just don't want to admit it.

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Spider... Lying is when you say something that isn't true. Why is it so hard to believe that the director read the books????? I get that he changed a bit of the story and you are bitter about that... But does that mean that he didn't read the books? Even if he didn't read the books and is lying by telling us that he did... you STILL don't know for sure... Hence you are LYING! Its ok to be bitter! Just don't lie!

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Not bitter and not lying. The director is full of sh*t, no one who read the books or was actually a fan would cast Elba and make the big sweeping changes he has. He's a cheap hack director the studio can push around and make a film for as little as possible.

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NO TRUE SCOTSMAN.

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Worthless reply again Wesker.

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You sound pretty bitter to me! Here is what NOT being bitter would sound like: Ahem...

The director really needs to prove himself to me because I haven't really seen his work and the casting of Elba just threw me off and as a fan I really question that decision. I am not sure what the studio is thinking by making all of these changes but I really hope it works out because I am a big fan of the books!!!

SEE??? That was being critical but not bitter....

You are lying and you are bitter... And you are a parrot.

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No that's what being sycophantic and a shameless apologist would look like.

Someone who learned English to read a book because they are such a big fan (yeah right), would have gone for an actor that changes an important dynamic and totally ignores all imagery of the lead character. Nor would they make sweeping changes that alter ever single part of the story.

You are just one of those people that is so desperate for any film with the Dark Tower name on it that you'll accept any old cr*p as long as it has a few of the names slapped on it. And will believe any obvious lies spouted by the cheap yes man of a director.

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Oh man, you are real piece of work! Do you work at the DMV? Are you married? You might be the single most negative person I have ever come across!! Congrats!

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Oh boy. You were doing okay in the books thread, but here we go again.

No that's what being sycophantic and a shameless apologist would look like.
So...those who post reasonable, non-combative, nuanced responses are being "syncophants" and "shameless apologists"? Last I checked, that was called being a mature adult, but okay. Got it.


Someone who learned English to read a book because they are such a big fan (yeah right), would have gone for an actor that changes an important dynamic and totally ignores all imagery of the lead character. Nor would they make sweeping changes that alter ever single part of the story.
What reason would Arcel have to lie about learning English to read the books? What evidence is there that he didn't read them? Mind you, what I'm asking for is a factual (as in "not your personal opinion"), non-casting-related explanation.

Secondly, it should be noted that Roland's appearance isn't nearly as important to the overall story as some people think it is. Let me ask you this: Let's say Arcel hired an actor who was the spitting image of '60s Clint Eastwood, but he failed to embody all the many unique aspects of the gunslinger as a character. Would you still prefer that actor to Idris Elba?

Lastly, the movie will be telling the story of a new cycle in Roland's journey. That being the case, technically, they haven't made "sweeping changes that alter ever single part of the story" since this particular version of the story has never been told before. As such, there's nothing to change.


You are just one of those people that is so desperate for any film with the Dark Tower name on it that you'll accept any old cr*p as long as it has a few of the names slapped on it. And will believe any obvious lies spouted by the cheap yes man of a director.
Opinions are one thing, baseless assumptions are another. From what I'm seeing, the comments you've made in this thread are largely the latter.

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