Apologies max if i seemed to be referring to you specifically, i see the error in where i posted that would make it appear that way. I don't actually keep tabs on which posters post what regarding spider. I see that some posters have genuinely wanted his honest opinion, yet there is a plethora of posts and even whole threads addressed to him directly that are clearly 'come out and play spider'. And then other posters become literally upset at his negativity towards TDT, yet obviously this was going to happen by baiting him. Sure the constant negativity gets to some people, but we all have the option to ignore if it gets to us or by all means poke back. Stupid expression and maybe it's an aussie one only, but "don't poke a sh*t unless you want it on you". I just find it silly that spider is habitually goaded and then others get sincerely upset at his subsequent reactions. I did personally address spider directly asking if he had any hope at all in even sequels if they would be more true to the books, but he has declined to answer. Which is fine, but i also do wonder why someone would be such a regular prolific contributor to a board for a movie that they seem unrelentingly adamantly against. Though in saying that, i've tried to put myself in his position and i do think that spider would receive nothing but scorn and accusations of being a hypocrite if he were to share now what may interest him in TDT or potential sequels. Hopper for example has contributed positively to this board and then has been targeted for this because he is against the casting of Idris. These verbal attacks were very nasty in nature and were used for the sole purpose to 'name and shame' past opinions that had nothing at all to do with his recent positive contributions. I don't get this... Can i be opposed to the casting of Idris yet still look forward to other aspects of TDT anyway? I hope so. Would i be targeted in every thread because of a past faux pas? I kind of don't blame spider for not sharing more after seeing the treatment towards hopper. Btw, spider was engaging without negativity at all on the favourite books/adaptations thread, and certainly gave me a chuckle or 2 with his succinct way of expressing his opinions. Funnily enough it was only me and one other poster (joanna i think) that engaged in discussion with him. Hmm only 2 other posters engaged in discussion with him after the constant harassment towards him to speak about something other than how much TDT is being butchered? Without having a go at anyone, i do have to say this looks a bit contradictory. (yes Wesker, false equivalency etc).
I'm not defending anyone specifically here. Hey i could even bring tyler into this, though in all honesty when i read his posts, i think he's just taking the p*ss out of it. Gay Roland for example. Seems like we're taking opposition to TDT a little too much to heart. Instead of can we all just get along, can we all just lighten up a bit?
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MaximusGrandimus
8 years ago
I think the common thread I tend to see in the anti-Idris posts is this idea that he was cast solely to appease the SJWs or for some other identity politics/politically correct reason. Not every character being changed from white to black is done so for ID politics. Johnny Storm was cast as black because Michael Jordan is the director's friend. There are in fact many pieces of input that occur when casting a role and while yes, there may be an Executive saying something like "It'll be good outreach for black audiences" I highly doubt Elba's casting STARTED there and really began with auditions and line readings, like every other casting choice in theatre and film. But many of the detractors won't even consider this, which is the infuriating part of trying to engage them. They get their feet firmly planted in the one-and-only reason of SJW which has become so played out on these boards that they kinda set themselves up for the ridicule. I don't agree with much of the ridicule, although I have engaged in some snarky comments myself but they make it SO EASY. So there you have it.
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sugrnspyce4
8 years ago
I think the common thread I tend to see in the anti-Idris posts is this idea that he was cast solely to appease the SJWs or for some other identity politics/politically correct reason. Not every character being changed from white to black is done so for ID politics. Johnny Storm was cast as black because Michael Jordan is the director's friend. There are in fact many pieces of input that occur when casting a role and while yes, there may be an Executive saying something like "It'll be good outreach for black audiences" I highly doubt Elba's casting STARTED there and really began with auditions and line readings, like every other casting choice in theatre and film. But many of the detractors won't even consider this, which is the infuriating part of trying to engage them. They get their feet firmly planted in the one-and-only reason of SJW which has become so played out on these boards that they kinda set themselves up for the ridicule. I don't agree with much of the ridicule, although I have engaged in some snarky comments myself but they make it SO EASY. So there you have it.
Exactly. As Roland would say, "You say true, I say thankya."
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Captain_Wesker
8 years ago
Bump.
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