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Oy, The Brave

posted 8 years ago by bigbenjr48
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With all the back and forth about black and white, PC and SJW, I thought we could all take an (Kumbaya) intermission to discuss the most least mentioned member of the Ka-Tet. The undisputed Dan-Tete who can only be labeled a species and not be burdened with a race.

Oy.

Rarely mentioned here. Owns no thread of his own (or not many), but has nonetheless proven himself to be braver than David the Hawk, and at the end, more fearless than the Ka-Tet as a whole.

I don't know where to start.

One question I pondered while reading the novels (and this question isn't the meaning of the thread), is who was Oy most loyal to?

Jake or Roland?

Hard to say, but don't answer that...I'm just kicking Oy's thread off to a start.
The toughest decision I believe Oy had to make was deciding to stay and fight with Roland after Jake's death.

But this isn't the question or reason for the thread. This thread is just about Oy, and anything you wanna say about Oy.

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[–] brett_md 8 years ago

I always felt bad for Oy, when he grabs ahold of Jake's hand on the bridge coming into Lud. Forced to hurt Jake by saving him. It's not his fault all he has to use is teeth.
Oy the brave, indeed.

[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

I always considered Oy to be most loyal to "Ake." :) I think he learned to become friends - and eventually family - with Roland and the rest of the ka-tet because of him.

Here's a question: What kind of real-world animal do you think of when you think of Oy? Personally, I always tend to think of him as a tanuki, but I could also see him as a marbled fox or a red panda.

[–] markbyrd72 8 years ago

A cross between a fox and a raccoon lol

[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9RbJEI_rYI.

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[–] Uninspired-imdb-ID 8 years ago

I picture a badger for some reason.

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[–] joannatn 8 years ago

See, and the picture I've always conjured is more like a striped otter. I know it's hardly what Stephen King described, but sometimes your mind goes in one direction and until given a different visual that appeals to it, clings to the one it originally conceived.

No matter what, a bunch of you know that Oy is one of my favorite characters. He's deeply connected to Jake and fiercely devoted to his entire ka-tet. I just wonder how they'd spin him on screen. I mean, nowadays CG seems to be the direction they all go, and for Oy that might be the best course. As much as I love Jim Henson's Creature Shop, I don't see that working very well for this franchise!

[–] flanmannu 8 years ago

Oy and Jake had a special bond which made him most loyal to Jake. However, I think that he understood his role in the ka-tet because he saw the others sacrifice themselves for Roland's quest for the tower. Despite being an animal, Oy was able to become a true member of the ka-tet and even showed this during his introduction at the Calla by bowing. It must have been very hard for him to leave Jake's grave but his loyalty to Olan's quest gave him the strength to do so. I imagine him as a sort of otter/wolverine type animal with a ringed tail, long snout and gold ringed eyes.

[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

I picture a badger for some reason.

Now that you mention it, I think "part badger" might've been used to describe his appearance lol. I can imagine that too.