YEP, that looks like garbage..... - The Dark Tower (2017) Discussion

[–] brett_md 8 years ago

So salty. I love it.

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[–] brett_md 8 years ago

Thanks for confirming your childish ego too. So much salt.

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[–] Grenn78 8 years ago

Are you talking about his semen? Your mouth appears to be filled up with it.

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[–] brett_md 8 years ago

*facepalm*

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[–] jpyoung1978 8 years ago

I think that's spillage from the BBC's he's been sucking off on camera at BLACKED.COM. :)

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[–] Grenn78 8 years ago

LOL

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

^ So much projection from the Alt-Reich.

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[–] brett_md 8 years ago

They seem really interested in men's genitals and bodily fluids. Well, to each their own, I suppose.

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[–] joannatn 8 years ago

But... Okay, hasn't the Man in Black always been an evil white man? So are you saying that Roland shouldn't have been cast as a black man because the Man in Black is white, or are you saying you just don't like the casting decision in general? No animosity intended, JP, this is genuine curiosity.

Long days and pleasant nights.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

SJW

You are instantly discredited.

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[–] SpringheelJack_fin 8 years ago

Why should he be?

It's a name given to a very specific group of people who share a very specific mode of thinking that's been excessively projected over the internet and in various petty "protests". It's the same way names like hipster, hippies, goth, emo and punk came about. SJW's wanted to make it law to force their made up words into vocabulary but they don't understand that new names form naturally because they're a "tool", they become part of the language on their own as long as they work.

In this case, it would be in the interest of SJW's to cast any prominent white hero as black. Do you see the connection?

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Why should he be?

Well admittedly, the OP's comments are suspect at best. First, because "SJW casting" is the first and only reason the OP believes Elba was chosen, as opposed to "the filmmakers like him," or "he was on the filmmakers' shortlist for the role," or "he must've had the best audition," or "they want to take advantage of his rising star status," or "he's a good actor," etc.

And second, because in my experience, the terms "SJW," "PC," "pandering," and the like tend to be thrown about only during discussions involving marginalized groups, mainly 1) POC (people of color), 2) the LGBTQ community, or 3) women. I'm sure you can guess which category this discussion falls into.

So, the fact that the OP - and several others, for that matter - immediately latched onto "SJW casting" as the sole reason Elba was cast is pretty telling.

In this case, it would be in the interest of SJW's to cast any prominent white hero as black. Do you see the connection?

In this case, not really. It's also in the interest of people who like to make money - specifically, the filmmakers and the studio backing them - to cast people who are popular or gaining popularity and are (or have the potential to be) financially profitable. Given the time, money, talent, and overall risk involved in this project, I think it's pretty safe to say that there's no huge conspiracy to earn socio-political brownie points under the guise of a Stephen King property.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Exactly what joannatn said. I'm interested in those answers too.

Also, Idris Elba isn't African-American.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

One minor yet humorous complaint I have seen regarding the casting choice of Idris Elba is that he is British.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Yeah, I rarely see that complaint, but it's weird to me lol. As if Viggo Mortensen isn't Danish-American, or Mads Mikkelsen isn't Danish, or Hugh Jackman isn't Australian, etc.

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[–] brett_md 8 years ago

White = 'Mercan

Thought you knew.

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[–] Zerose 8 years ago

the Gunslinger is now tainted with SJW overtones by casting an African-American in the role

Excuse me for interrupting your act of clutching your pearls but Elba is British, not African American.

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[–] jpyoung1978 8 years ago

Oops, so sowwy, I forgot Elba was from Britain.

The point still stands that he was cast because SJW's now dictate "diversity quotas" where all lead roles must be played by blacks because of their white guilt over slavery and secret desire to have their mouths and ass holes drilled by BBC.

The gunslinger is a mythic character and by making him black it brings in racial connotations involving slavery while having the Man In Black as an entrepreneur in the real world is meant to symbolize that rich white men of the modern era are evil and keep the black man down, so he must be killed by a symbol of slavery, a black old west gunslinger to atone for the USA's sins of its past and this annoys me the same way it does when I hear blacks crying that they should be paid reparations for slavery.

Get phuced.

Elba's casting is revisionist bulls#it being used to sully The Dark Tower with fanatical SJW's dogma that if you're a white straight male you're everything wrong with the world and have never done anything to advance either civilization or social progress. I support equality but as a white straight male I get tired of the shill screaming from women, blacks, gays and their middle-upper class self loathing white male cuckold lapdogs.

Stuff like this, why no black James Bond/Spider-man/Doctor Who etc...., bitching about the lack of feminism in videogames, or whining about the racially inaccurate historical casting in Gods of Egypt (a movie about Gods with gold blood fighting giant fire breathing snakes FFS) is the reason why Brexit and Trump happened and I've been saying this for a while that the SJW fundamentalism over "diversity", which is really another form of domination under the guise of "equality", would push away moderates and I was right.

Whites can't make a movie, TV show or ANYTHING without these morons shrieking that everything's racist and unfair. Tough *beep* life's unfair and it shows where their priorities lie which is why, as I said, an Orange Nazi like Donald J(erkoff) Trump is now President of the USA.

At this point the SJW's are the left wing equivalent of those Alt-right twats and you can all BURN IN HELL for all I care, keep your *beep* politics out of my entertainment!!!FACT!!!

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[–] Zerose 8 years ago

Excuse me for interrupting your rant, but get a grip.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

I was initially (we're talking late December of 2015/early January 2016 here) hesitant to the idea of Idris Elba playing Roland Deschain before I warmed up to it and realized that there was no real reason beyond the superficial why he couldn't play the last gunslinger of Gilead. More and more, i've become ecstatic about the decision to cast him as it continues to reveal the uglier elements of The Dark Tower's fanbase.

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[–] bigbenjr48 8 years ago

And I would love to lead the whole lot of these uglier elements into the Thinny.

Black History Will Now Be Accepting Martyrs👮

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

Awww. I don't think we need to offload that burden onto Hawaii .

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

You are part of the ugliest element of the Dark Tower fanbase, at least you would be if you'd ever bothered to read the books.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

If I condensed all the racism and insinuated racism i've seen over the past year regarding this casting decision into one mega-post, even you would be hard pressed to defend it.

My conscience is clear .

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[–] bigbenjr48 8 years ago

Besides ranting about something you didn't have smarts enough to write, I'm interested to know what you plan to do about it?
Have you devised some sort of a master-plan that will somehow prevent this catastrophe from happening?
Have you emailed Stephen King hoping he will eventually read this (smarter than a 5th grader) essay you wrote in your sh!t-streaked, Ironman fruit-of-the-looms?

Black History Will Now Be Accepting Martyrs👮

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[–] jpyoung1978 8 years ago

I'm interested to know what you plan to do about it?

Not pay to see it.

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[–] bigbenjr48 8 years ago

This was the only point you should have made.
I see you frequent the Politics boards.

Lol. Precursor invasion.

Black History Will Now Be Accepting Martyrs👮

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[–] flanmannu 8 years ago

Coming from a person whose sig depicts cops being sniped........Look, I like your posts and can tell that you know the DT series but damn dude. That sig is so ignorant.

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[–] bigbenjr48 8 years ago

Please define ignorance, as it relates to my SIG.

I won't get into my sig too much because everyone I have known for 12/13 years on the IMDb has had his/her own personal sig without being questioned about it's origin/meaning (controversial or not). Usually it is a quote from a film/Tv/toon, proverb or something made-up out of thin-air. But I've never heard of someone's personal sig being critiqued.

Who brings up someones sig?

Not that it matters on The Dark Tower board, but my SIG reflect the thinking of a race whose shoes you wouldn't know how to walk in even if you tried. I'll just leave it at that.

So how 'bout we just dismiss my SIG as in'SIG'nificant and just concentrate on the part where you said: "I like your posts and can tell that you know the DT series..."

If it do ya.

Black History Will Now Be Accepting Martyrs👮

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[–] flanmannu 8 years ago

I hear you. I just don't take too kindly to people advocating killing members of my profession. That's why I feel that your sig is ignorant. I will admit that I've never walked in your shoes and you haven't walked in mine. I've been on IMDB for awhile too, although I don't really post much and I have seen plenty of people critique sigs. I guess yours hit hard the other day because an officer at my department was ambushed by a guy hiding in a car. No hard feelings and I agree that we should concentrate on the DT series and how this film is coming together.

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[–] bigbenjr48 8 years ago

And for the record, my sig doesn't advocate Cop killing or even encourage it. It is a statement meant to be a slap in the face to those who think blacks should watch live-feeds of their mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters die and not think that "Enough Is Enough".

To a kid; watching their daddy get killed by a PIG on TV/facebook will make a sniper look like a member of The Avengers or The Justice League, because all they have is anger/hate.

And I hate to press you, but the word: Ignorance is defined as: the lack of knowledge, learning, information. So I still see no link to your accusation and my signature.

Black History Will Now Be Accepting Martyrs👮

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

Did you see Richard Spencer get sucker punched? That was deeply satisfying.

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[–] bigbenjr48 8 years ago


Watched it 100 times on YouTube.

Black History Will Now Be Accepting Martyrs👮

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[–] flanmannu 8 years ago

I get it. We are coming from totally different sides of the spectrum. Your sig shows a cop getting shot at. Despite what your sig feels to you, it seems pretty clear to me what it shows. You lack the knowledge of how police operate based on their policies and procedures. That's why your sig is ignorant. You should go on a ride along with your local department so you can learn a little more about the rules that officers follow as well as their training.

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[–] bigbenjr48 8 years ago

My Sig doesn't show lack of knowledge of how police operate based on their policies and procedures, because it isn't about knowledge of how police operate based on their policies and procedures. It's about martyrs being accepted into black history.

Yup, we do come from different sides. And I would never tag along with a Pig. Maybe this would be a fun field-trip for someone else, but not for someone with a few dead relatives back in the 60's. Ignorance also has another definition, and it applies perfectly to your cop-fieldtrip. It's called Bliss.

Black History Will Now Be Accepting Martyrs👮

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[–] flanmannu 8 years ago

Ok then stick with your Bliss. I just like to try to keep an open mind and try to explore some of the reasons why people might act defiant or are anti-police as well as explaining why officers do certain things. I've had about a dozen people go on "cop-fieldtrips" with me and they had all said that they have a new understanding of police work, at least on a patrol level. I just figured that you might be open to the same but can see that you are not based on your past experiences and death of relatives in the 60's.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

anti-police

Most people are "anti police corruption" and "anti police brutality". You'll find few people that actually want their neighborhood/town/city/etc free of (tax funded) law enforcement.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Most people are "anti police corruption" and "anti police brutality". You'll find few people that actually want their neighborhood/town/city/etc free of (tax funded) law enforcement.

This. Exactly this.

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[–] bigbenjr48 8 years ago

I just like to try to keep an open mind and try to explore some of the reasons why people might act defiant or are anti-police

Well, that's easy. Look no further.
Just plain old animosity towards police (PIG's) usually starts with small things that can happen to any person, such as: a parking or speeding ticket.

But outright hatred starts with; Dead relatives. Good-kills. Slamming daddy to the ground while his kids watch helpless from the back seat...etc.

I forget if it was a Roman, Egyptian or Greek custom; but whenever they killed the father, they made damn sure to also kill the Son's as well. Or otherwise, they would have a huge problem on their hands years down the road. A revenge problem.
Hey...you might be pumping gas someday with your back turned⛽. And that kid who was 10 years old when he watched you kill his daddy might be 17 years old that day.

Black History Will Now Be Accepting Martyrs👮

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[–] flanmannu 8 years ago

Glad I've never slammed a daddy in front of his kids. But if I ever do I'll buy a Tesla so I don't need gas 

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[–] lone-foxx 8 years ago

My mother was pushed down the stairs while she was pregnant with my sister, another pregnant woman died that night. My mom took me to the police station and they said we were just some junkies making stuff up, later the same man who did this tried to suffocate me with a pillow; I was five years old, oh and my mom was going to school then to become a nurse, which she did, you know, because she wasn't a junkie, she was just a single mother who needed help from the police. This was in Santa Barbara, a very rich city.

Sadly, I have far too many stories like that as I've traveled most of the United States and the countries surrounding us, I don't need to make events up because its all I've ever seen from police. I've seen police buying/selling/using drugs, sneaking people into the country (in Ft Lauderdale, another rich city), robbing people, creating crimes where there were no crimes (job security, I imagine, gotta fill those quotas) and on. We call you PIGS because thats what you are.

"This is What You Want... This is What You Get"

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

The disproportionate amount of police action against minorities by comparison - not to mention disproportionate sentencing/punishment - is appalling.

One need only look to officers of the law in the U.K or most mainland European countries to realize that maybe WE are the ones who have it all wrong. Our screening process and law enforcement training are both in dire need of an overhaul. None of this "if your IQ is too high, you are disqualified from becoming an officer" nonsense, for instance.

There are other factors too, such as the ridiculous "War on Drugs" and "affluenza" bull, but we can at least start by raising a much improved generation of cops.
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[–] flanmannu 8 years ago

I've never heard of the IQ being too high as a dis-qualifier. At my department we are encouraged to continue our education and I have three people on my squad, including myself, who have an MA or an MBA. There are also a few Ph.D's floating around my department. Not to say that there aren't some morons out there who got on to a department that are the typical tough guy cop who thirsts for power but they are by far the exception. I've also worked with dozens of officers who got fired for committing various crimes on or off duty that don't get as much press as the cases where someone is shot. I can only speak from my experience in my specific department but we routinely have tests for new applicants where 3-400 (or more depending on the length of time between tests) people show up and maybe 1 or 2 get hired and make it through the whole process of being a solo patrol officer. A good thing that we have now is we are issued Body Worn Cameras which should help both weed out these bad cops as well as show more positive actions of the good cops that happen much more often. Not the ultimate solution to some of these issues but they are a good start and have been helping immensely since we got them.

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[–] bigbenjr48 8 years ago

I've always been impressed with the way the Brit's (U.K) train their police force, and the way they handle situations differently than the U.S. And almost always it is without the use of firearms; unless the threat involved terrorists.

And that whole Affluenza mess is jaw-dropping. But it's been going on forever. It's the sort of alternative sentencing that blacks will never qualify for. Just meant for rich Aristocrat-brats. The only reason it didn't work for the Menendez brothers was because they whacked their own family.

Black History Will Now Be Accepting Martyrs👮

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

LOL - well. It looks like you did your absolute best to prove my point, jpyoung1978. I rest my case.

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[–] MaximusGrandimus 8 years ago

The gunslinger is a mythic character and by making him black it brings in racial connotations involving slavery

I'm quite curious as to how you make this intuitive leap, especially given that the world of Roland's lineage, Mid-World, appears in the writing to have absolutely no aspersions cast upon people of color...

I would have to further infer that you are bringing your own baggage to bear, rather than allowing for the idea that perhaps - just perhaps - Elba auditioned best for the role.

I don't know if you're aware of this but I've already changed things. I killed Ben Linus.
--Sayid

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Welcome back, stranger! 

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[–] MaximusGrandimus 8 years ago

Unfortunately, spyce, I may not stay long - it seems that the haters are coming on in droves lately and it's not even worth it to try and argue when bandying about stuff like "Hollywood SJW's" and "special snowflake" etc pretty much shows they already have their minds made up.

I don't know if you're aware of this but I've already changed things. I killed Ben Linus.
--Sayid

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

You're always welcome among us, whatever the state of the board may be.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Ha - yeah, that's understandable; some people have a higher tolerance for BS than others lol. I'm sure we'll get a wave or two of haters once that trailer finally drops. It is frustrating at times, but since I've been here this long, I'm determined, as Roland would say, to "stand and be true." :)

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[–] apriloish 8 years ago

You do understand just because its a black actor an a white villain that dosent make it sjw lol you crack me up thisw franchise is lucky it even has actors in it of these twos calibers

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[–] growlernoth 8 years ago

Exactly what I'm thinking. I will see it but guarantee I wont pay a dime for it. Only high qualitty true to the orig story and feel movies get my hard earned cash and I see no way in hell this will be any good.

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[–] dmmillerdesigns 8 years ago

Agreed. Every time they post a new character that doesn't follow chronological order of the books whatsoever (Pimli...seriously?), I die a little at seeing how this is going to make my favorite book series of all time, look like a cluster F of a story.

I'm going to have to rent this one because I'm pretty sure I'm going to be yelling a lot.

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