There's a difference between ignoring a character's description, and looking past it when the right actor - someone who can convey the character's inner qualities which I happen to feel are more important than looks - comes along. Now hear me true. I'm not blindly defending this film as you claim, and I'm not so desparate to see a Dark Tower adaptation that I'll just accept anything that comes along. I will be going into this movie with a very critical eye and I'll be the first to cry off if they don't get it right. And by get it right I mean being true to the source material even if they change things. I happen to believe there's a middle ground where changes are acceptable if done in the spirit of the source material; you seem to deal in absolutes - it's either a direct adaptation or it's fan fiction or crap.
That's what infuriates me about you, Spider, this unmoving attitude you have that your point if view is fact and that everyone should think the way you do. Your outlook is just that - YOUR outlook, YOUR opinion. Not fact, it's just the way you see things, and you can't handle that others don't see things the way you do so you lash out with name-calling and reporting posts and accusations of hypocrisy. Yes, I have responded to some of what you say with sarcasm or even snideness. But at least I'm keeping an open mind, at least I'm thinking for myself. And I refuse to judge a movie - any movie - or book or story or whatever until I've seen it for myself and judged it true, based on what's there and not what I expect or think will be there. And therein lies the difference, is that you're willing to close yourself off and make judgements without the benefit of actually experiencing it first. It's a very closed-off and to me terrible way to live. Mainly because you're shutting yourself away from experiences, even bad ones. But that also means you might miss out on good experiences, constantly being negative and saying no to something just because you don't agree with a casting choice or an opposing point of view. Really, when I think about it I feel sorry for you.
Also, it would be interesting for you to show some knowledge of the books beyond Roland's descriptions. Seems pretty suspect to me that you haven't cited anything about the books other than physical descriptions of Roland and the racial tension in Drawing of the Three...
I don't know if you're aware of this but I've already changed things. I killed Ben Linus.
--Sayid
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Odin_Cat_of_Norway
8 years ago
Maximus, you give an excellent breakdown of why you, I and many others are okay with the casting. But Spider won't respond to reasonable arguments. As I've shown, the only things he responds to is asinine trolling. I know, I apologize to everyone else for my doing that. But it really, really shows his blindness to reasoned argument. All he wants to do is complain.
The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed.
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Spider198
8 years ago
As if you've ever used a reasoned argument, you do nothing but troll and insult people.
Now go get back under your bridge.
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Film_guy1986
8 years ago
But isn't that exactly what you do?
You're kind of describing yourself perfectly there.
I'd say it's the pot calling the kettle black but I'd be dubbed an SJW or hypocrite to mention something black I'm your presence.
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Captain_Wesker
8 years ago
Don't worry: this is a guy who wished financial ruination on people involved in the production of this film. Later, he doubled down and further stated that bodily harm ought to come to the principle actor and people involved in the production.
Odds are you are a better person.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1648190/board/flat/254319580?d=254335961#254335961
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1648190/board/flat/257578918?d=257742064#257742064
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It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing .
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Spider198
8 years ago
Oh go back to b*tching about race changing on the Ghost in the shell board hypocrite.
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Captain_Wesker
8 years ago
Evading the question, as usual (since May 2016...and counting) .
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1648190/board/flat/260600503?d=260828892#260828892
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1648190/board/flat/257578918?d=257799977#257799977
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It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing .
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Spider198
8 years ago
You're the worst example for evading questions, all you do is evade questions and derail topics when you have no reply.
You are so full of sh*t it's ridiculous and reading your posts where you ramble on about how you don't care about a character's race blah blah, it couldn't possibly come off as more fake.
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Odin_Cat_of_Norway
8 years ago
No, I... I mean you SPIDER198 [I'm not SPIDER guys, I SWEAR] are the worst at evading questions.
The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed.
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Odin_Cat_of_Norway
8 years ago
SHUT UP YOU *beep* FREAK! I'M NOT YOU AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT
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Spider198
8 years ago
You've got some serious mental problems there Odin, seek help. Or maybe just go walk into traffic, whichever is faster.
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Captain_Wesker
8 years ago
Hey Spider, do you always wish for an accident to befall people when it comes to fictional entertainment or is it just unique to The Dark Tower?
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Spider198
8 years ago
More topic avoidance Wesker, that is nothing like what this thread started it you just have nothing to add so have to completely change the subject.
You're pathetic.
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Captain_Wesker
8 years ago
The only thing that is truly sad is how you put every other argument/statement below your sick desire in terms of pure offensiveness.
You won't even address the pachyderm in your flat, yet you have the temerity to accuse others of delivering unsatisfactory responses.
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Spider198
8 years ago
Because you never deliver a response that is worthwhile Wesker. You're so full of sh*t it's ridiculous. You prattle on and on about how race isn't important, making your snide comments and petty insults towards anyone who doesn't fall into line behind your thinking. All the while you are complaining about race change when it it comes to any characters that's not white.
You even travel to other boards where you sense people actually wanting good casting to defend other race changes that are being insulted. As long as those race changes aren't to a black character of course. You are a sad pathetic little social justice warrior with no substance to back your rhetoric.
And when you run out of argument in return to anyone's posts you derail the topics or try to change the subject. It's transparent and you
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sugrnspyce4
8 years ago
Looks like you didn't finish your post there. However, this stuck out:
...making your snide comments and petty insults towards anyone who doesn't fall into line behind your thinking.
Not only does this seem to be inaccurate regarding the poster you're referring to, but...this. This right here. Coming from you. The guy who likes to toss a plethora of insults at anyone who doesn't absolutely loathe this upcoming movie and/or Idris Elba as Roland, no matter how non-combative and/or reasonable their explanations are.
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GuyNCognito
8 years ago
Spider is autistic. Leave him alone.
Grant discovered raptor eggs in Jurassic Park
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sugrnspyce4
8 years ago
Now, now. Considering that there are most likely plenty of autistic people who can refrain from being insulting and condescending and are fairly reasonable, isn't that a bit of a slight to them? I think it likely has less to do with a developmental disorder and much more to do with him just being a bumhug.
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Spider198
8 years ago
Sugrnfool weighs in, and adds absolutely nothing. I'd say I was surpised, but you never add anything to any topic.
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sugrnspyce4
8 years ago
Sugrnfool weighs in, and adds absolutely nothing. I'd say I was surpised, but you never add anything to any topic.
Oh, I've actually contributed plenty to various conversations around the board. You though? Nothing but a broken record of negativity and plain ol' bumhuggery. It would be nice to see you branch out. Maybe to, say, actual discussions about the source material, possibilities about how certain scenarios might play out in the movie(s), or - and you might want to sit down for this - something other than the casting and/or your greatest hits from your stock insults playlist. Just a suggestion.
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Spider198
8 years ago
Wrong dipsh*t, just smarter than you and haven't deluded myself into thinking this isn't a trainwreck.
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sugrnspyce4
8 years ago
100% agree, MaximusGrandimus. It's like you read my mind. Couldn't have said it better myself. You say true, I say thankya.
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Spider198
8 years ago
The right actor is the one that both looks and can play the part, Elba fits neither of those criteria.
It's a casting done simply to get attention when fans react against it.
I can think of a dozen actors of the top of my head who would be a much better choice than Elba.
I have good instincts on when films will be terrible, an example very like this one. The Fantastic Four, it had a poor director who showed no respect for the source material and a race change done for no good reason. I called that it would flop and it did. This will suffer the same fate as that cr*pfest.
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