Just to clarify - The Dark Tower (2017) Discussion

[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

I too would like some clarification -> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1648190/board/flat/256437965?d=260414835#260414835.

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[–] tinasparklesau 8 years ago

I don't see any clarification in that thread.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

My question to you, in the specific post I linked to, is

How exactly is action and adventure mutually exclusive with science-fiction and fantasy?

in response to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1648190/board/flat/256437965?d=260406010#260406010.

When the interviewer specifically brings up the science fiction, fantasy and mythological elements of the books - Idris corrects the interviewer *3 times* within 10 seconds that this will be Action/Adventure.

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[–] tinasparklesau 8 years ago

That has nothing to do with my question.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

You highlighted a specific comment as if it were a problem. I was trying to figure out if you consider the classification of action/adventure to be an issue with a franchise that is...chock full of action and adventure.

Since you did not respond to that thread, an alternate method of getting your attention was utilized.

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[–] tinasparklesau 8 years ago

That thread is not this thread. Please try and stay on topic.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

Fair enough. Will you answer my question in the pertinent thread?

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[–] tinasparklesau 8 years ago

Possibly. Though it sounds like a threat to extort me by hijacking my posts if i don't reply to you lol. As much as i enjoy our pseudo repartee, i find you exhausting at times :)

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

As I basically stated, I tried a method to get your attention. Now that you are aware of the post, I do not have to comment about it here anymore.

Adieu .

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[–] perceiveclothing 8 years ago

Yes, Tull is included! The script that I read and that seems to somewhat follow the movie they are making is quite different than The Gunslinger. That being said, as a standalone story it is BETTER than the first book Imho. It does end with the likelihood that we will get something very close to Drawing of the Three if this film does well...

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[–] soulpatrol76 8 years ago

If you want a spoiler filled answer give me the word I will tell you hiw the script is yet isn't the gunslinger.

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[–] tinasparklesau 8 years ago

Would love one! Am fencesitting atm, and desperate to come back to the light :D

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[–] soulpatrol76 8 years ago

Ok spoilers so anyone who doesn't wanna know move on

Spoilers

Ok so it's like the gunslinger because Roland is chasing Walter.the difference which is a little irksome is he doesn't care about the tower and has lost sight of the beans. All he cares about is murdering walter.he Chases him through tull everyone dies because Walters glam. Then we come to Jake who it seems in future movies may remember more about the previous cycle. Well Jakes role is different in this script as he has the shine (the touch) which is very strong. Possibly strong enough to break the beams. He is having visions of walter and visions of Roland. Walter wants to turn him into a breaker. He knows Roland can save him. So long story short he goes to dutch hill and makes it to midworld where roland wants nothing to do with him. Things happen and they make it back to new york for medicine for Roland.
When they return Walter gets a hold of Jake brings him to the Dixie pig and through a doorway and is about to break the beams when Roland becomes the badass we know and destroys everyone in the Dixie pig sees the doorway closing and sees Jake and sees Walter and realized what he has to do...BAM! Jake is dead the beam is safe for now. Gets back to midworld dios tarot reading sees the prisoner and the lady of shadows. And the boy.looks up and sees the beam and the journey begins.

So as I say the core is there for the gunslinger but its remixed in a belivabke way for a next cycle.

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[–] soulpatrol76 8 years ago

Sorry for spelling errors new phone doesn't correct my mistakes like my old one lol

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

That is absolutel awful, how to butcher a great book. Complete with the now obligatory PC stunt casting.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Ah, yet another entry in this franchise: Bumhug Forever.

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

Yet another useless comment from you. The signs of a fool with nothing to add when this is all you can manage.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Yet another useless comment from you. The signs of a fool with nothing to add when this is all you can manage.

   Eye. Row. Knee.

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

Wow you actually managed to make an even more useless posts. I'd say you couldn't possibly be more dim. But I've thought that before and you keep slinking under that very low bar.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Wow you actually managed to make an even more useless posts. I'd say you couldn't possibly be more dim. But I've thought that before and you keep slinking under that very low bar.

     And the irony keeps on coming! The jokes write themselves.

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

The jokes definitely write themselves when you make your feeble attempts. But keep distracting from your lack of anything to add.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

The jokes definitely write themselves when you make your feeble attempts. But keep distracting from your lack of anything to add.

I'm not even going to say it. You make this way too easy.        

Anyway, I'm off to have much more interesting discussions with much more interesting people here. Feel free to continue your monotonous bumhuggery by yourself ad nauseam, though. 

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

You were clearly dropped on your head as a child.

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[–] rcolfer 8 years ago

Thanks matey.

That sounds pretty weak. Very little in common with the books then. Will likely give it a miss.

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[–] tinasparklesau 8 years ago

Thanks for taking the time to post that summary! Ouch, some of those changes are a bit hard to swallow. I look forward to Tull though, i hope they don't PG it. I can see how it might reach a broader audience than just TDT fans, so here's hoping they pull it off well enough for TDotT to go ahead. It's more dialogue driven, so quite possibly will stay more true to the book imo... Thanks again :)

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[–] soulpatrol76 8 years ago

I skipped quite a bit just to give a jist but yeah it's not the story we know but it works pretty damn well as a new cycle if you can get past it's not supposed to be the novel story.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

 And yeah, I'm not quite sure what's wrong with him, but I think they might have medication for that.

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

Don't need medication for common sense and a working brain, you have neither so i understand if you didn't realise that.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Don't need medication for common sense and a working brain, you have neither so i understand if you didn't realise that.

"Common sense." "A working brain." Okay.                

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

Yes those basic things probably seem funny to the astoundingly simple minded.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Nice to see you again, tinasparklesau!  So sorry for contributing to the interruption of your thread, but let's get back on topic...

Personally, I'm refusing to read the script beforehand since I want to go into this movie with relatively fresh eyes. But from what I've seen other people posting who have read it - namely soulpatrol76 and a few others, it sounds like there's not much to worry about as long as fans keep in mind that this movie is a continuation of the story from the books. And I can't speak for anyone else, but I can't wait to see McConaughey's portrayal of the Man in Black. In interviews I've seen/read, he seems really into his role - lol.

I'm still cautiously optimistic, though. :)

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

Having the villain take a slight lead over the hero reminds me of how "Batman 1989" handled the balance between The Joker and Batman.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Having the villain take a slight lead over the hero reminds me of how "Batman 1989" handled the balance between The Joker and Batman.

Y'know, now that I think of it, you're right. The Joker did have a decent amount of screen time in that movie. That being the case, I don't think Walter's screen time will be excessive to the point of minimizing Roland or Jake, especially if my previous suspicion - that they'll use Jake as an "anchor" for the audience - ends up being true.

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[–] soulpatrol76 8 years ago

I would say Walter Jake and Roland split screen time pretty equally. Walter for sure is quite delightful! matthew mcconaughey use gonna kill it!

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Nice - that's good to know. 👍 I'm really interested to see Elba's portrayal of Roland, and judging by the EW interview, it seems like McConaughey had fun bringing Walter to life. Can't wait to see them interact on screen. :)

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[–] tinasparklesau 8 years ago

Hi!  No probs  Yep, i'm putting most of my hope in McConaughey myself. Not only is he a total scene stealer, but he'll draw in the masses (hopefully). Interesting to know he stayed in character as Walter!

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Yeah, I'm sure McConaughey fans will be very interested in the prospect of him playing a villain - especially a villain in a film based on a Stephen King series. I know Elba has played a bad guy in a few things, but I don't think I've seen McConaughey as an antagonist before. Overall, I think the fanbases of the two leads along with King's will draw a decent amount of support for the film.

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

The fanbase of the two leads? Because the latest film co starring Elba has been the lowest grossing of the series it's in (Star Trek).
The delusion of some people, this will be a bomb.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

And yet another entry in this inexhaustible saga: Bumhug and Robin.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

Here's one that's picking up steam.

16. "Racist" (usually mentioned in tandem in a response to anyone fine with a majority role being played with a minority).

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

The racist one is aimed at people who are actually racist. And it's a bit rich someone like you claiming I overuse that, you do nothing but fall back on calling people racist the second they question the dodgy casting.

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Ha - apparently so. Imagine that.

Also, it seems certain posts are disappearing. I wonder why that could be... 

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

Just exposing the sad pathetic behaviour of your mindless defenders now, you have not argument to counter with so make lots of childish comments. Keep it up fools, every single childish and lame insult just proves everything I've said about you being completely stupid morons.

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

Are you going to report yourself to the moderators now?

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

Because I had the foresight to obtain Lazarus Form Recovery some time ago, all of my posts are saved. Eat it, Detta198.

(Here is the post of mine that preceded sugrnspyce4's)

Why bother debating?

I have the solution for those that want to disagree with our resident arachnid. Save yourself the time and effort with my following list.

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Spider198 responses (pick one) ->

1. "Fool."

2. "Moron."

3. "You are not a true fan."

4. "You haven't even read the books."

5. "SJW."

6. "Shill."

Have I missed any?

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Hmm...looks like the rest of the list has mysteriously disappeared. So, in the spirit of completion:

Oh, several.

7. "PC." (may occasionally be paired with "casting" or "agenda")

8. "Stunt casting."

9. "Hypocrite." (often used alongside "hypocrisy")

10. "Double standard."

11. "Pandering."

12. "Excuse."

13. "Butcher."

14. "Pathetic."

15. "Delusional."

16. "Idiots."

17. "Sh*t." (may be used on its own or as a suffix, e.g., horsesh*t, bullsh*t, etc.)

18. "A working brain." (often used disparagingly to insult other posters)

19. "Lie." (often used when confronted with proof that debunks certain claims)

Honorary mention: "Racist." (usually mentioned in tandem with a response to anyone fine with a majority role being played by a minority) Note: If this becomes a regular response, it will be added to the list. —Mgmt.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseam.

Side note: Ha - 19. 

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

http://www.clipartkid.com/images/337/high-five-y7MLlk-clipart.jpg

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

👍

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

Bump.

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

You've successfully described yourself there Wesker, at least you are being honest now. Good for you.

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[–] Spider198 8 years ago

Factual statement, the so called fanbase of Elba you rely on to make this successful added up to the least successful Star Trek film in a previously successful series.

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[–] tinasparklesau 8 years ago

Killer Joe 👍

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[–] sugrnspyce4 8 years ago

Killer Joe

Right - I forgot about that one! I never had a chance to see it, actually. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the reminder! :)

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[–] Captain_Wesker 8 years ago

Looks like you-know-who cried to the administrator about your contribution to the list. Care to repost the other numbers from the list?

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