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As a Chinese... the movie's way too Chinese for me


"Thank you for using QQ!"

I was like wtf.

(And certainly, tencent QQ doesn't sound like that!...)

I'm Chinese. If I want a Chinese film I'll watch one made here. If I'm watching one by Hollywood I want the original flavor.

This mash up is way too weird...

Or is it just hollywood's attempt to pass the Chinese culture bureau of screening the 34 or so imported movies.


In retrospect the Chinese flavor in Firefly is I think very well done other than the butchered mandarin but doesn't really matter even.

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I'm neither Chinese, American or Russian, but I find odd how war obsessed americans are towards both russians and chinese, yet they have completely different approach to them. They demonise russians and suck up to chinese, as if if ultimate war breaks out, chinese would side with america against russia. Haha. Not gonna happen.

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Yeah, this has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with box office. Lately, these sorts of movies don't fare particularly well in the US, so movie producers are relying on the international take to recoup their money...so they are pandering to a Chinese audience to make it more "relatable." Of course, as with most product placement, this was poorly handled and obvious.

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We didn't fight a political battle with the Chinese for 50 years, so we aren't as combatant with them as the dirty Russians.

That being said, I thought this movie pondered too much to China.

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It pondered, huh?

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I'm neither Chinese, American or Russian, but I find odd how war obsessed americans are towards both russians and chinese, yet they have completely different approach to them. They demonise russians and suck up to chinese, as if if ultimate war breaks out, chinese would side with america against russia. Haha. Not gonna happen.

US and NATO crossed Russia's red line buffer zones with predictable results from Putin. The US has a triple layer of military bases or access to bases in asia encircling China. Clashes between China and the US are inevitable.

US policy documents Russia, China and Iran as her biggest threats and rivals to her in the coming decades, hence the pivot to Asia. China is an especially big threat due to her starting trade organizations that she leads and apparently will account for half of global trade in future. On the other hand China is alienating just about everyone and the US need do nothing but watch her sabotage herself in that respect.

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Lol. Only Russia and their useful idiots would refer to entire soverign nations as "buffer zones" :p

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The chinese actress was absolutely terrible.

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I found the inclusion of the token Chinese actors offensive. It was so damn cynical, just the men with money insisting on it so the lucrative Chinese market would lap the movie up. What the hell happened to art, creativity, believing in something? And yes the previous poster is absolutely correct, the actress they used (Baby Fanny or whatever she's called) was diabolical.

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What the hell happened to art, creativity


Nothing happened to art. Why you'd be looking for it in a summer blockbuster about an alien invasion I don't know.

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It's not about money at all, it's about diversity and equality propaganda. Every single blockbuster has women and minorities forcefully overrepresented, no matter how unrealistic it is. E.g. a Hollywood team of 4 scientists consists of 1 black woman and man, 1 asian woman, and 1 mexican man. IRL it's 3 white men and 1 asian man. And like OP said, the chinese people would watch the film regardless of the presence of a token actress.

And don't waste time reading this line, it's just my pointless signature.

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lol and mengnui moon milk... funny that it doesn't say "moon milk" in chinese on the carton. 

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The tie-in to Chinese culture was meant to demonstrate the world "coming together" after the first war (1996). There are many other aspects of the movie which point in that direction but are more subtle; for instance if you look at the human fighters it's clear that they're designed as a cross between Russian and American fighters of today (sukhoy and f-22) with a bit of alien technology to tie it all together.

It's not meant to be pandering to the Chinese, it's just meant to reflect a world which is much more diverse and unified than the one we live on today.

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We have a winner. I don't understand how people would think that America would be America after it lost damn near half its population. The aliens are a GLOBAL problem not just America's.

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China is an earthly leader. Americans consume products designed, engineered and manufactured in China and by Chinese citizens. They provide so much entertainment for all through technology. If China decided to stop exporting their goods and services it surely would upset all of our lives. I think it's good to recognize China in such ways for all the things we appreciate in our lives. I would imagine that with Chinese people leading the way with technology here on Earth they would be the first to reverse engineer "alien" technology and so naturally their influence would be more prominently on display worldwide as what they provide globally for all can't be denied.

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Chinese and the rest of the world don't want to waste their film budget on the big blockbuster movies. That's what America is for. They will gladly pay to see Fast and Furious, Marvel, Star Treks etc while investing into their own film academies that will produce domestic indi art movies..

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I don't think you understand much about economics. A country doesn't have "a film budget". Paying to see american movies instead of making their own doesn't magically free up funds for making Chinese "indie films".

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I haven't seen the film so is it safe to assume that this film added in the studio required positive Chinese propaganda so it could be released in China?

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As a non-Chinese and a non-American, I had no issue with there being Chinese characters so prominent in this film (I don't mean that as patronising as it may sound!) -- I just wish it hadn't been handled like ostentatious product placement.

I understand that China now has a much bigger place in Earth's future, both technical and economic, than it's had in its recent past. And Emmerich reflects that, with the moonbase commander played by his usual go-to guy for anything Asian. But (as with The Martian), his way of bunging Chinese involvement into this, and scenes of disproportionate Asian representation, just to bribe Chinese audiences felt pretty ham-fisted to me.

One last thing: The Chinese pilot's poor acting made her seem more like a model with a speaking role than a genuine actress, but she certainly wasn't alone there. I was mostly distracted by the fact that she looked more like a character out of anime than a human being -- I've read it's a growing trend among East Asian actresses to have plastic surgery to "Westernise" their eyes, especially to get that doe-eyed ainme look, and I was wondering if that had happened to her.

But I can't complain too much; the film opened on my hometown -- clearly one of the more important cultures on the planet!! 



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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