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"IDR" actually makes "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" look good


Yeah, I said it...and I'd say it again.

I'll take Shia swinging with monkeys, over a giant alien queen with a hand-held gun, chasing a small un-catchable school bus anyday!

"Thanks, guys." "So long, partner."

- Toy Story 3 (9/10)

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Actually I agree. I had more fun watching Indy 4 than this film.

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I had more fun having kidney stones removed than watching this film.

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Kingdom of the Crystal Skull wasn't that bad.

I mean I only watched it once, but still it was a treat for me to finally see an Indiana Jones film in the cinema. I had fun. I don't know why everybody had such a problem with aliens when they didn't have problems with a lost ark that melted the faces of Nazis, an extreme Hindu cult that ripped out hearts while they were still beating or a knight having lived for over 300 years....

I think it gets hate because of Shia...

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Fans of films produced by George Lucas have largely become like spoiled children, that are never going to be pleased no matter how hard you try.

It was time-appropriate given the time-frame, but it's like everything SW-related: everyone wants the same experience they had as a kid...but I felt Indy 4 was kind of saying, 'look, you need to grow up and realize, things don't always stay the same.'



"Thanks, guys." "So long, partner."

- Toy Story 3 (9/10)

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There were a lot of things wrong with it, the one that stands out for me was cate blanchett. She's a great actress but that wasn't a strong role for her. Everyone has their weaknesses and I blame poor casting.
Others included a very artificial feel to it, the grittiness of Indiana jones movies is what made them good. This one felt synthetic. There was also more sci fi than mythology which was disappointing.
The sense of adventure was somewhat lost in favour of modern effects and techniques and it suffered for that.
It was unfortunate that it played out like it did but other old movie franchises have suffered the same fate.

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Crystal Skull mostly wasn't that bad. It had the same problem as the "first" three Star Wars movies (Phantom Menace, etc.). That is, your experience with the franchise led you to expect something great and merely okay was kind of a letdown.

Resurgence was your typical Hollywood rehash style sequel. Bigger ships, more outrageous destruction, similar plot. They start off getting their asses kicked then come up with a brilliant plan at the last minute and save the day. Perhaps this is why Will Smith passed on the film but there's no question it suffered for his absence. Teens and twentysomethings of today are too young to remember when the original ID was in theaters. They needed to do more than include rising star Joey King in a basically pointless role in order to attract the millennials.

And to make everyone of all ages want to see it, we needed new and original ideas. It's a decent enough movie if you're looking for mindless entertainment - two hours of crash, smash, boom. Just nothing to get terribly excited about. I remember Emmerich talking about his ideas for a sequel back when the original movie was still out. He seemed to know where he was going to go with it even then. So why did he wait twenty years to make the sequel? Back in 96 the studio would've greenlighted that in a second!

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