Horrible lead actor.
I want the next lead to be a female.
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FD1 - MALE LEAD
FD2 - FEMALE LEAD
FD3 - FEMALE LEAD
FD4 - MALE LEAD
FD5 - MALE LEAD
Although I have to say I didnt mind the male lead in FD5, I did in FD4, actually just disliked FD4 as a whole movie too rushed!
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Oh, he was terrible.
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Who cares if it's a woman or a guy. I liked the lead from 5.
shareWho cares if it's a guy/girl?
Anyways, I really liked Sam as a lead. He's my 2nd favorite premonitionist behind Alex from 1. I liked all of them except Nick (4) though.
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Agreed
shareI so agree! He showed the worst acting in the series!
shareBobby Campo from The Final Destination
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Bobby Campo was bad, very bad but he didn't annoy me as much as the lead guy from FD 5 - that idiotic face expression. Just ewww
shareI actually like the lead actor in this one.
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I saw a range of emotions from Nicholas. Also never had an issue with his facial expression. Bobby, on the other hand, had absolutely no range and underacted every single line
In all honesty, Sam is my 2nd favorite premonitionist (Behind Alex from 1. Wendy cried too much and Kim is kinda bland)
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We'll just have to agree to disagree. I can see how Winstead may have overacted in some parts, but I connected better with her as a lead than I did with most of the others. Devon Sawa was great, and definitely played the role differently by giving a bit of an insane/pushed-to-limit edge to his character. I would say that AJ Cook and Winstead were decent, both having great acting moments, although AJ seemed to phone it in for the second half of FD2. Bobby Campo was extremely one-note and had no depth, but I blame the direction because the entire film had a campy, humorous tone. I was indifferent with Campo, pretty much. With D'Agosto, however, he was unlikeable as a lead for reasons I already said. I cringed a lot during his scenes in the premonition sequence in particular.
shareOh, you misunderstood me. Winstead was PHENOMENAL and nailed every scene, it's the writing that bugged me. Wendy honestly just cried so much that I was annoyed.
I've seen Bobby in other things, that's the same performance he gives in ALL of them (unlike the rest of the cast) So no, it's on him. And either way it was worse than D'Agosto.
I honestly don't get the complaints about his acting in FD5, I honestly thought Sam was really likeable. AJ was good but she just didn't have tons to work with. Kim is likeable but not all that interesting, plus she was kind of a moron (How many deaths did she cause?)
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I have to disagree with you there, Mary Elizabeth Winstead was probably my favorite, tied with Alex. They both did excellent jobs conveying true fear of what was going to happen next especially Wendy. Her "overacting" was realistic to me when she was crying to get off the ride, it gives me chills every time. Sam comes in third for me because he had a wide range of emotions throughout the film, his facial expressions didn't bother me aha. Kimberly came in fourth, she was okay with what she was given, but since there was so much going on around her, she should of had a more "hysterical" attitude towards death, and what was to come. Nick was just.... no lol, he really just had the same "who farted" look on his face, he was horrible aha.
shareTo each their own! In my opinion, Sam was awful and by the way, critics weren't impressive by his acting too.
And what? You put him over KIm and Wendy??? You have a very weird taste (just my opinion)
Kim was kinda bland, worse acted, AND incredibly stupid. She got everyone killed pretty much. Likeable but not a good lead. She should've strictly been a supporting character
Like Wendy a lot, but the crying REALLY got on my nerves. If not for that she'd be 2nd
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Stupid? because of what? I didn't notice anything smart about Sam, seriously. He was wonderfully annoying! Kim is probably my favorite lead actor in the series - and by far the most skillful. She was the only one who had REAL visions, she had them more than once and she was the only who cheated the death!!!! Year, she was so dumb because of that! Please....
As for Wendy - I agree. I never liked her
I disliked Kim because she had no traits, none, no faults, no goal, no character arch, she was just a 2-Dimensional character, of course most of the characters were 2-D characters but the main protagonist needs something to work with and Kim had nothing and A.J did an "okay" job with what she was given.
I liked Wendy the most because I could relate to her, if your best friend and your BOYFRIEND were killed and you had the power to stop it but you didn't react fast enough, how would you react? Plus she was still in High School, she reacted realistically and with a dark force basically breathing on her neck, "it's cold, and terrifying", I for one would of acted the same way. Alex acted similarly to this as well, they both had a scene that just allowed then to unfold and cry about the devastating tragedy they just witnessed and survived. Sam, Kim, and Nick had nothing like this (Nick and Sam didn't loose anyone close so that can be one reason). But Kim lost 3 of her best friends, and after the interrogation scene, she was wooden (for example the scene where her father's watching the news and she walks in, completely flat performance).
She's great in Criminal Minds though!! aha
You definitely forgot everything about FD 2. Hello, the interrogation scene was well acted plus another detective had already interrogated Kim before officer Burke. What did you expect - super crying on the 2nd interrogation??? Please plus in the first disaster scene she showed a very realistic reaction - for me, it was the 2nd best one in the series (Alex is unbeatable on every level).
Oh and don't overrate Wendy - annoying crying through the whole film doesn't make her more realistic. Did you see this actress in Black Christmas, The Thing (2011), Death Proof?? She plays Wendy almost in every movie. Even serious drama Smashed and Die Hard 4 didn't change my mind about her acting skills
I've seen all 3; IDK what your going on about. She doesn't act like Wendy in those AT ALL For a start, she's crying a whole lot less
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1. "THE PIGEONS!" Oh sorry... got you smashed Tim
2. The fact she couldn't remember Isabella died in her premo, leading to Kat, Rory, and Eugene dying
3. "BLOODY HANDS!" "EUGENE D:" Err... they're clearly a white person's hands. RIP Clear
Sam was hardly as smart as Alex or Wendy, but he was much, much smarter with Clear. Kim and Burke got everyone in their movie KILLED! So yeah, she's an idiot. She also didn't cheat death (FD3 Article and Interviews) As for acting, eh, no. She was good, but Devon and MEW were far stronger
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How could Kim predict Tim's idiotic reaction on Pigeons??? It was Tim's fault. That's clear.
Kat, Rory and Eugene would die definitely. They didn't even take all that seriously. They were doomed from the start plus their deaths were impressive and made this film so memorable.
Bloody Hands??? Again, it was Clear's fault. Why the hell she cared for that idiot Eugene that much??
And come on, unlike others, Kim had more visions which helped her to survive. And YES, she is still alive. That article in FD3 was a special eddition that can't be taken seriously. Script writers for FD 6 even wanted to bring Kim back so how come she is dead???
Acting? Devon was by far the best. That's for sure. There were some acting moments in FD 2 that I don't like but her first reaction where she sees her best friends' death blows Wendy far away.
In Black Christmas and Death Proof MEW acted the same way!! I wonder you didn't noticed that
He wasn't even RUSHING towards the pigeons. They could have waited till they were closer and could actually explain to them.
Also, the movie's script was written in mind with Tim being about age 10, so they were shouting "PIGEONS" to a 10 year old. What did they expect? (Casting bumped him up a few years)
Kim led them on a pointless wild-goose chase which DID get them killed. If she thought for a minute, perhaps she could have avoided taking them out of the house and less would die.
LMFAO! Actually trying to portray Kim as a better character AND more intelligent than Clear
Clear thought it was EUGENE who Kim meant by bloody hands and went to save him (you know, what are incapable protagonists should be doing) It takes literally 2-seconds to stop her.
Unlike others except Nick in 4. And no, she's dead. The article can be seen flying by in the regular and they've confirmed several times in interviews that Kim and Burke died.
Source for the FD6 writers wanting to bring her back. People said the same about Wendy and FD5 and it was just a fake rumor.
Balanced out by Kim reacting to Rory's death like she just smelled something disgusting. Devon > Wendy > Nicholas (For the plane ending) > AJ >>>>>> Bobby actingwise.
How did she act the same? Please enlighten me. Explain.
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First of all, Tim wasn't 10 and everyone knows it. They could have waited? Maybe but again, how could they predict his reaction?? Your point doesn't have any sense.
About Clear's death. It wasn't KIm's fault at all. She wasn't a witch or telepatic master. She couldn't control her abilities. She already saved their lives before car accident. It wasn't her obligation to take care for them all the time. They all would die with or without her help. Is that so hard to understand??? Kim didn't save Clear but she saved Burke in the hospital. Saving Clear we would lose Burke!!! And even 2 seconds wouldn't help
Kim and Burke are dead?? That's only in the "Choose Your Fate" version of that movie. It's not in the official version so basically they're still alive. In that version of the film, you are able to choose the fate of characters, and almost all of them are just alternate versions of their death.
I didn't like Kim's reaction on Rory's death as well. That was the only scene I disliked about her acting
I never heard about Wendy coming back in FD 5 but I've heard so many rumors from articles and script writers about Kim & Burke's comeback in FD 6 and 7.
If you don't want to see MEW playing the same way, fine. That's your choice. I won't persuade you in my rightness
Well the script was written in mind with him being 10, so in that she's a moron. But even going on the film, she DID cause his death. That's a fact. She's incompetent at the very least; but why would you NOT wait till you can, you know, EXPLAIN! What the hell does "THE PIGEONS!" mean? Could she have at least said "AVOID THE PIGEONS!" It's one extra word.
Yes it was. Clear saw the hands, they were white. It had nothing to do with CONTROLLING her visions as much as picking out important details and remembering what she saw.
It was her obligation when she got visions and MADE it her obligation, of her own free will.
The fact she saved them from the disaster doesn't change the fact she FAILED to save anyone when all the other premonitionists (except Nick) DID, and at the very least Nick didn't cause deaths. Completely ineffective.
How would telling Clear "No the hands aren't Eugene's, the person was white!" cause Burke to die? You're either making up points or not very intelligent. Also, it was Burke who saved Kim, seeing as she was next after Eugene. Not the other way around.
Tell that to the producers, who confirmed it in interviews.
Links or the articles don't exist.
No, if your RIGHT tell me why your right or shut the hell up.
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Well dear, Wendy didn't saved anyone too. Do you remember the scene with black guy in FD 3? She was near him but didn't do anything to save him so I guess she is dumb (according to your logic)!
As for Tim - you stick to your own opinion. To be honest, this is the first time I see someone's blaming Kim in his death. LOL
Do you always remember every single detail of your dreams??? I guess NO. Situation with visions is worse - you are in the shock, you're scared and you cannot remember all the details. KIm didn't cause any death. They all would be killed and as I said before - they were doomed from the start.
Glen Morgan never confirmed Kim & Burke's deaths!
And come on, why the hell kill them??? The ending of FD 2 was very unique. KIm found a very smart (but also very risky) way to cheat the death. Kim died, then was resurrected! End of story!
She saved Ian in the hardware store and Kevin at the fair. Kevin saved Julie. Also no, she's not stupid because of Lewis. There is NOTHING else she and Kevin could have done, Kim could've NOT shouted about the pigeons, Burke could've been more careful about what he told Nora on the phone, Kim could've taken 5 goddamn seconds to tell Clear "The hands belong to a white person!" Stop using fallacious reasoning and placing words in my mouth.
Really? I see it all the times. What sites do you go on?
My life doesn't depend on remembering a dream. Kim's depended on the premonition, and if she can remember the ORDER in it, I'm fairly certain she can remember that Isabella didn't die. And she AIDED death in killing them, even if by accident. Tim would never have run to the pigeons if she didn't bring them up, this is a fact. It's possible Nora or someone else could have intervened him from a different attempt.
Glen Morgan didn't write Final Destination 2 (or 4, or 5) The producers have, that's enough.
Because her method didn't work?
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We dare you mentioning Kevin? He isn't the lead in FD3. Yes, he saved Julie - NOT Wendy. Ian??? but then Erin was killed... Wendy didn't save anyone. Kim saved Burke
Also, Burke couldn't predict Nora's 'psycho' reaction as she was very calm (despite her son's death)
Kim could've taken 5 goddamn seconds to tell Clear "The hands belong to a white person!"
What God sake, producers & script writers explained that countless times - they wanted to avoid any hints on racism. J. Mackye Gruber (screenplay) and David R. Ellis (director of FD2) proved that in their interviews!!!
I don't even talk about Kim caused Tim's death. It's so stupid and it's just your opinion! It's funny how hard you are trying to present your subjective opinion as a fact! Just an OPINION.
Kim's method worked! That's why she and Burke are alive but I guess you prefer "Choose Your Fate" version. OK then
Kevin is the co-lead and did a better job helping than Burke OR Kim? Why's it matter WHO he saves? Btw is English your first language?
I don't always understand what you're saying
Erin would die whether Wendy saved Ian or not. It's probably one of the only deaths you CANNOT even remotely blame on the lead characters. Wendy saves 2 people and caused no deaths, Kim saved no one and caused several
He still could've said it in a more effective way. As I said before, stupid was harsh. HOWEVER, they still caused people to die. Burke CAUSED Nora's freakout which caused her death. None of the others did that
HOW IS THAT RACIST!? Kim is white. That's not racist! Neither is saying the hands belong to a white person!!!!
It's NOT an opinion. Kim telling pigeons caused him to run towards them which caused his death. It's as much of a fact as Nora being killed by an elevator!
Also, you're NOT one to talk about opinions since you mentioned your "rightness" or whatever about MEW's performances, hypocrite (still qaiting for you to back it up)
I'm going off of what the producers said.
Still waiting for you to show me articles saying they'll be back for 6. But you won't. Know why? You're a liar AND a hypocrite
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English is my 3rd language so I can make mistakes. Sorry for it!
Burke didn't know that the man with hooks was near Nora and again - who could predict such an idiotic panic??
As for racism - say it to the script writers sweetheart! I just repeated what they said in the interviews!!! Even Wikipedia wrote about it
MEW's performances were monotonous but did I say something about my "rightness"?? Yes, I expressed my point of view. It's not my fault that you have serious problems with opposite opinions!!!
Kim & Burke were planned for FD 6. David R. Ellis said about it in 2012, he left them alive in the FD 2 film so now the death would finish them. It's a pity, but David died this year. Eric Bress confirmed it.
And stop using strong language & insultings. I didn't do that.
I already said that calling them stupid was too much. However, they WERE ineffective an DID cause deaths.
Links and quotes or it doesn't count.
Anyways, that doesn't change the fact it makes Kim a moron in THAT one scene
Do you understand what monotone means? It means every word is said on one level with no emotion. So uh.. not monotone.
I don't have an issue with opposing PoVs, you do. You flat out told me I was wrong
Links or it didn't happen.
RIP David though
Liar and Hypocrite aren't foul language and I can't be reported for them. And yes, you are. And now I think you may just be a troll. Read the thread
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Again, it was rude and immature reply! You are still trying to prove that your opinion is the fact!
Yes, I don't try to justify Kim's actions in that scene but calling her idiot, that's too much. I still think she was way more skillful than other lead characters.
Kim and Burke were supposed to die in the final scene of FD 3 (along with Wendy, Kevin and Julie). Both actors had no time to film that scene so producers decided to leave them alive. An alternative version of FD3 doesn't count. Many Action/Sci-Fi movies have alternative endings but no one considers them as real or important.
This is the first time someone calls me a "troll". 'm sure, I have more rights to call you a troll!!!
"Monotonous" have several definitions - not just "no emotion". She acted the same way in FD 3, Black Christmas, Death Proof, even in Die Hard 4.
No, YOU ARE! So back off or shut up
I've already said idiot wasn't right. WHY are you dwelling?
No, she was not more skillful. Not an opinion either. Alex saved 2 people. Wendy saved 2 people. Sam saved 1 person. Nick saved 0 people. Kim caused 4 deaths. Alex, Wendy, Nick, AND Sam had to piece the stuff together on their own. Kim had Clear tell it to her. What displays skillfulness?
The fact the producers of the movies say its canon and that you've yet to provide links confirming they're meant to return for 6 make it real.
I've been on IMDB for 2 years. The only person to ever call me a troll (aside from you) is a troll on the Britney Spears board. I'm a legitimate poster and make ones all over the site. Not a troll. You keep making stuff up though. So either your REALLY dumb or your a troll.
Monotonous:
1. lacking in variety; tediously unvarying: the monotonous flat scenery.
2. characterizing a sound continuing on one note.
3. having very little inflection; limited to a narrow pitch range.
Ok, it has different definitions. But your not proving anything. Just restating what you already said. EXPLAIN TO ME how she's giving the same performance in every roll. When in Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer or Death Proof did she break down and cry?
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First, no one never called me a troll (besides you)!!! That's clear! As I said before, you just have problems with different opinions.
Only the final scene counts sweetheart. Kim saved Burke though, WEndy died. She didn't save anyone. Is that so hard to understand??? Yes, the situation with pigeons was a bit dumb but Tim would die as soon as possible. No one would save him.
FD movies have many producers. Just because one of them told that Kim & Burke are dead doesn'r mean it's canon. It's just an alternative ending! Those endings are NOT canon and every smart person knows it!!!
Yes, I did hear that script writers planed to return KIm & Burke. It was like 5-6 years ago. How can I give you those links??? I heard it but I won't try to persuade you, you are helpless. Anyway, you said the same about WEndy - the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. Her death was obvious (unlike Kim and Burke's)
"Ok, it has different definitions. But your not proving anything. Just restating what you already said. EXPLAIN TO ME how she's giving the same performance in every roll. When in Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer or Death Proof did she break down and cry?"
and you are what? Critic? Actor? Producer? I don't have to explain you anything. OK, you said "break down" and 'cry' - ahahahaha. Oh dear, we talk about acting. Jennifer Aniston cried in The switch, laughed in WE're the Millers and had a break down in The Break-Up but critics still call her a very "monotonous" actress. You should look at MEW's expressions, behaviour, manner of speaking. In The Thing she wasn't believable as a scientist. Not even close
He couldn't act but then he kinda grew on me.
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His acting was so excruciatingly awkward. Even the way he jumped across the bridge gap was bad.
shareSam was a complete favoritist (he admitted it himself!) and totally unlikeable. He also had the worst actor in the entire series if you ask me.
So true!
shareI want the next lead to be blonde. Or redhead.
Every one since the first has the dark brown/black hair and it's pretty dull to look at for an hour and a half straight.
Redhead? Sounds interesting. I'd love to see that. Also, what about a douchebag or bitch??
shareA douchebag would be interesting. As if Carter was the psychic in the first one. Since he's such an as$hole, I wonder how he would come to try and save the rest of the people who are doomed to die, or save anyone but himself in the initial disaster. He'd put himself first and not likely help anyone else. Redheaded douchebag, haha ... interesting plot. A guy would be more interesting to me, but I would like a female redheaded douchebag to look at for an hour and a half. :-)
sharebut I would like a female redheaded douchebag to look at for an hour and a half. :-)
I thought Sam was a good lead. He is my second favorite (behind Alex)
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