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How did the wolves cross the river? (while the 4 guys crossed)


While the 4 guys had to build a makeshift rope using the clothes to cross the river, the wolves were already waiting for them on the other side.

How the hell did that happen !!!

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they were no ordinary wolves, my man.

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they were no ordinary wolves, my man.


Best way to say it.

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How the hell did that happen !!!

Hollywood. They prefer their audience to not think about such things. Dumb and compliant, that's the way they like 'em. Remember, the creative geniuses behind The Grey are also the folks that gave us the A-Team and Transformers.

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good point

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Unless they were different wolves? Remember they moved towards the den not away from it. However this seems less likely than the wolves moved down the valley and back up. We dont know how long it took to make that rope. But it does seem like a plot hole...

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to be fair, wolves move infinitely faster than humans, particularly in deep snow where they can be light on their feet on top of it

it is not impossible to believe that they could get there quite quickly. also considering that their 'den' was in that direction, maybe there were just different groups of the pack in different spots, like already over there

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particularly in deep snow where they can be light on their feet on top of it

Do they wear anti-gravity belts?

The wolves in The Grey might have run atop the snow because they were weightless CGI creations dreamed up by a clueless filmmaker. In the real world, a 100 lb wolf would have roughly twice the foot loading of a 200 lb man. Which means they would be twice as likely to fall through the snow. Did you ever see a large dog running on top of deep snow? of course not. They bound out of the house and comically crash through the snow like a bull in a china shop. Only the smallest dogs can walk on ice crusted snow, and even then they periodically crash through.

There is no credible explanation for the wolves getting across that ravine in time to munch on Mr. Glasses. ... and then, inexplicably, let the other three guys go tromping off - right toward their wolf den.

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I think they teleported there.

"Let's not ask for the moon, we have the stars".

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Take 30 seconds to research wolf anatomy before you make stupid generalizations about large animals.

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It's not about the how much an animal weighs or how large an animal is. It's about how well their weight is distributed over the snow. Unlike dogs that you are basing your comparison on, wolves are built for running in snow. They have much wider paws with slight webbing, and they also spread and shift their weight to their toes when moving through snow. This gives them superior weight distribution allowing them to move through snow much better than us or many other animals for that matter. Think of it as nature's version of snowshoes.

Please do at least a little research before you go spouting off nonsense about animals that you obviously know nothing about. You kinda sound like an idiot.

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Why would anyone think they were the SAME WOLVES????

Like there were no other wolves in that freaking DEN????

Cmon people..... This movie is not amazingly real but its not that bad either...

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Why would anyone think they were the SAME WOLVES????

Like there were no other wolves in that freaking DEN????


Thank you.

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Why would anyone think they were the SAME WOLVES????

Like there were no other wolves in that freaking DEN????


Because if they're not, one must believe that the wolves were acting on a plan to drive the men towards that ravine in order to kill them, and then also knew that they could possibly cross it by constructing a clothes rope. I guess a lot of people didn't fall for the ridiculous anthropomorphism that went on in The Grey.

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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Why would anyone think they were the SAME WOLVES????

Like there were no other wolves in that freaking DEN????
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Because if they're not, one must believe that the wolves were acting on a plan to drive the men towards that ravine in order to kill them, and then also knew that they could possibly cross it by constructing a clothes rope. I guess a lot of people didn't fall for the ridiculous anthropomorphism that went on in The Grey.


I have no idea why you would think that is the case. That's a ridiculous ascertainment.

Wolf group A stalked them up until the ravine crossing, and Wolf group B attacked them after the crossing. That's not hard to picture at all when you realize they were getting closer and closer to the wolf den the entire time.

The wolf stuff is clearly not entirely realistic, but it's not wildly contrived or anything. I don't understand what people wanted out of this movie. I thought it was beautiful.

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It's simple, actually. It's because real wolves don't come anywhere near behaving that way. So yes, their depiction was a wild contrivance.

Considering the way the fantasy wolves were portrayed in The Grey, and how they behaved from the moment they appeared until the showdown at the wolves den, one can only come to the conclusion that the ones on the other side of the ravine were different ones and acting on a plan that was masterminded by the alpha. The plan was to pick them off one by one and drive Ottway into the den for a mano a wolfo throw down.

The argument has been made that the wolves were never intended to be representations of real wolves, but instead fantasy ones meant to represent stalking death. If that's to be accepted as the truth, then what I wrote above has to be the case.

I never thought that the wolves on the other side of the ravine were the same ones. It's just that some have a real hard time swallowing the ridiculous portrayal and what must be the truth about why the wolves were doing what they were doing.

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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Seriously, you know that Wolves don't carry a torch for you as well, right?

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Says the guy?/gal?/it? carrying a torch. 

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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The English/language/deserves/better/wouldn't you think?

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O miy, dId it n0t unersand? 

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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If I'm an IT, does that mean I'm one of the offspring that has derived from you and a wolf? Are you my Mama?

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Apart from being my bITch, I don't know what you are. 

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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Just kiss already and get it over with.

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No tongue!



This tactic used by The_Wood is one that was used constantly by SeasonalAffective back when me and another poster expressed our disdain for the movie and its maker on a regular basis, confronting SA: hijacking threads and derailing discussion. We couldn't talk to anyone without his puerile intervention. With him, you had to love the movie or get the f@#k out. Now that SA has given up, he's using this sock puppet account to continue his behavior.

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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Oh get real. The only thing you do on this website is troll around and pick fights about The Grey and things that deal with big foot. It's hysterical. You clearly have an agenda that really doesn't have anything to do with a movie. I've called you on it multiple times and you attempt to be witty. Usually failing miserably.

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Lord, what a tired, worn out response that is! The obligatory complaint from the IMDb butthurts. 

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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I don't mind you talking as much as you do, as long as you don't mind me not listening.

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Riiiiiiiight! What's your next blast of basic irony gonna be? You gonna start calling me a last-word freak? 

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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Yes. 😂

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Aaaaaaaaand your idiocy is complete. 

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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Ooooooooooooooh super-burn! Kicking ass and taking names. Keep on keeping on. 🐯

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Why would anyone think they were the SAME WOLVES????

Like there were no other wolves in that freaking DEN????
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Because if they're not, one must believe that the wolves were acting on a plan to drive the men towards that ravine in order to kill them, and then also knew that they could possibly cross it by constructing a clothes rope. I guess a lot of people didn't fall for the ridiculous anthropomorphism that went on in The Grey.


Oh My Gawd. Acting on a PLan??? R U serious????????!!!!!

THEY WERE WALKING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE DEN!!!!!!! THAT'S WHY THEY KEPT BEING STALKED AND MORE WOLVES KEPT SHOWING UP!!!!!!!!

PLEASE DO YOURSELVES A FAVOR AND PUT CLOSE CAPTION WHEN WATCHING MOVIES,!!!!!

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Is that how it works in real life? Groups of wolves are positioned sentry-like around the den in order to attack anyone or anything that may approach? It'd take a whole lot of wolves to do that. Remember, Ottway said that the wolves' kill range was something like a thirty mile radius from the den. And they were still a good ways from the den when they crossed that ravine. So I guess it was just dumb luck that some wolves happened to be nearby when the first man dropped, ready to tear him apart? No, the wolves were obviously acting on a plan, or must have been communicating telepathically. If that wasn't what the filmmakers intended to convey, the group that was stalking the men from the crash site must have been the same ones that were waiting on the other side of the ravine.

I've fallen it's true, but I say to you, hold your tongues until after I've spoken.

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The wolves had already crossed the river from their den to the crash site, so they merely crossed back to their den. They knew how to cross the river in their own territory, although the men crossed at a more treacherous place (and not at the shallow ford the wolves used). Wolves are faster runners and have more endurance than men.

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Apart from the Coen brothers nonsense, this makes sense!

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1. The airplane crashes. 2. The crash site is surrounded by wolves. 3. The survivors set out into the forest through heavy snow. 4. They are attacked by the wolves, who are in their element. 5. Wolves are faster runners than men, and have better endurance, and particularly in deep snow. 6. The survivors cross the river, but then realize that they have crossed toward the wolf den. 7. The wolves see the men cross the river. 8. The wolves who have already crossed the river to surround the crash site, cross back at a place known to them, since it is in their own territory.

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There crossed at the weir a little further downstream...they were weir-wolves.

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Once were wolves.
Now they are worriers.

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There's a deleted scene where they equip jet packs and rocket across. Director thought it was a bit impractical so they took it out.

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A better question: How did the main character stay alive for so long, after being in that icy water for several minutes?

His hands weren't shaking or anything, he could even flip through wallets and pictures with no problems.

Perhaps God DID intervene, making him warm again to allow him to die fighting. :)

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The weather during that moment didn't look particularly freezing, probably just below zero (or 32 F) from the looks. You wouldn't freeze to death in minutes when wearing fleece/wool clothes and out of the water, but you would still be in extreme discomfort. He would be dead by nightfall without heat, but certainly not in minutes.

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