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Thoughts on the ending / the entire concept of the film?


I've seen this twice and have spent hours thinking about it (literally), it really lingers with me but I can't wrap my head around something. It seems to me (it's pretty clear) that the whole movie is some kind of feminist statement, or at least a statement about human nature. What confuses me is that for the whole movie Lucy doesn't seem to enjoy sex, or anything really, she just seems indifferent and uses herself as this passive object that people can do whatever they want with, but yet it doesn't seem to damage her. It seems like she's trying to get some weird kind of sense of control through giving complete control to others. I understand all of this, but the ending messes with me, when she starts screaming when she sees the dead man next to her. Obviously it's a traumatic thing to wake up and see that some man just died in bed with you, but as far as her character goes, she's so indifferent to anything that people use her for. Was it maybe that he didn't "use" her at all, and she thought that's all men wanted to do? I don't think that's it but I'm just thinking out loud now.

I'm just trying to think of an explanation that matches up with the statement this movie seems to be making, which is that women have grown passive to letting men use them however they want, but also that it's not only sexual, because really, there's hardly any sexuality in this movie.

I'm pretty lost, clearly, so please share your thoughts. I'm very curious!

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I think she doesn't come alive until she has this traumatic thing happen to her like the old man's story. She is essentially 'sleeping' through her life.

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I agree... But she's had traumatic things happen to her for the whole movie, she almost looks for them. I don't see why this is different, it is just a coincedental moment? I don't think it would be, but I tend to look too far into these things.

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Indeed, the screaming seemed too much. It was implied that her friend died (killed himself) in his sleep with her by his side. It wasn't the first time she would have woken up next to a dead man.

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Exactly. The screaming was similar to the first scream of a born baby!! As if she was sleeping/apathetic the entire film.

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Interesting take on the idea of female passiveness and control, I hadn't thought about that. There is that line where the man says, "I've been sleeping through my life," which is interesting. What I really thought the ending was about, though, was Lucy having a vision of death. Earlier, right after she takes the pills, she says something like "Fear of death is the number one hoax." Then there's a shot of them floating around naked in deep, dark water-- which implied danger for me, but they seemed to be having a good time.

Then, when she goes to work the next day, she has a bad reaction because of the hangover and the traces of drugs still in her system, and she gets very close to dying. When she woke up, she was terrified, and I thought it was because she finally had a glimpse of what death was really like, and she almost ceased to exist. That was why she was screaming.

Then there was that last, long scene from the video camera, of them lying together. I kept expecting something to happen that would explain more of the movie, but I think it was supposed to mean that they were going through the same thing internally. Or something. I was a little foggy on the concept of the movie myself.

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I won't claim to fully understand the movie, but here's my take on the ending.
I think what happened with Birdman is the clue to why she screamed at the end.

Pretty much throughout the whole movie, she does not show much emotions about anything, no mater what is done to her. Except for when she has to lie besides Birdman as he dies. Her tears are streaming in this scene, making us think that this is the absolute worst thing that could ever happen to her.

Her curiosity about what happens to her while shes sedated leads us to believe that she is probably imagining some petty horrific and hardcore stuff is going on. Instead she wakes up to find that a man has used her for the same purpose as Birdman, to have her keep him company while he dies. As far as she knows, this has happened every time she has been under. And that is why she cries. Nothing nobody could do to her, sexually or physically, is as bad as that.

Throughout the movie we all wondering what extreme and terrible things is done to her while shes sleeping. The videoclip at the end is just showing us that the worst thing that could happen to her, actually did.



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^This helps put the film in a more clear perspective. Thanks.

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The ending was the most anti-climatic i have seen in a long time. We see from the recording that nothing happens to Lucy while sleeps. Big deal. By the way how did Lucy know that the old guy in bed with her was dead?

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She touched him.

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I think the fact that she had just been resuscitated, shaken violently, touches him, freaks out all point to a dead man next to her ie unresponsive.

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This made a lot of sense- thanks for your insights!

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Absolutely -
I think the other part is that she was so closed off emotionally the rest of the time that her experience with Birdman was singular & spectacular - Birdman didn't USE her, she shared herself with him. She didn't intend to share herself with the old man, but that's what happened, thus she felt that her gift to Birdman was made worthless.
The fact is, despite her various "exploitative" jobs, she had always been able to keep her emotional vulnerability private. She gave it to Birdman, and then the old man stole it - except, the worst part is that
he didn't steal it. Lucy's agreed to it, and she's getting paid for it.
She has unknowingly subjected herself to the exploitation she's worked so hard to avoid, and this realization just destroys her.

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That makes a lot of sense. I wholeheartedly agree.

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Except for when she has to lie besides Birdman as he dies. Her tears are streaming in this scene, making us think that this is the absolute worst thing that could ever happen to her.


The problem with this explanation is that it's likely that Lucy was crying because Birdman was dying, not because she has to lie in bed with him as he does so. Your explanation implies that Lucy's distraught reaction is in response to the mere fact of a man dying in bed with her, rather than the identity of the man that's dying.

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It`s been a while since i posted here but i wanted to share this idea, When she is waken up by the other woman she screams and everything but then we see the other woman move away as if it was just a dream, I believe she is dead and she just noticed this is somewhere like hell stuck at thsi room, she really is dead and the video shows they both died there, She overdosed and he committed suicide.

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Holy moley GIVE ME A BREAK WITH THAT GARBAGE.

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Many people here have given interpretation of the film and its ending. Many of the posts showed certain insights, and the scriptwriter and director undoubtedly intended some message in her film, though what the latter was could be debated. It could be about the passivity of women, or people sleepwalking through life in general, as some have suggested. However, that alone wouldn't be sufficient for a good film made. One problem was that we know absolutely nothing about the Lucy character. We know that she did not connect with people, had zero self-esteem and cared nothing about herself or her body: she made money by participating in medical experiments and allowed coin flips to decide whether to sleep with complete strangers. She was behind in rent but burned a one hundred dollar bill. What was Lucy’s background and history that could help explain such behaviors? We have absolutely no idea about her motives and thoughts. We only know that Lucy cared absolutely nothing about herself, and for that reason it is difficult for us to feel any empathy for the character either.

Unfortunately, the other characters were hardly developed too. One could at least understand better those ancient clients who apparently feared old age and loneliness and the inevitable loss of potency. But what explained their desire to sleep next to an unconscious, naked young woman while they were not allowed to have sex? The old man who died at the end had a long monologue in his first visit about his dead wife and a friend that had a near-fatal traffic accident, but I don’t see how that might provide any particular insight on what finally happened at the end. The whole concept of having a nude “sleeping beauty” in the film appeared rather unnecessary, and appeared to provide just a setup to shock the audience - especially in the finale. As for the ending, I think the death was an accident and not an “assisted suicide” as some posters had suggested. When the lady of the house gave him the drug, she asked if he was “sure” and he said he was, suggesting that he had simply taken a higher dose than considered prudent. I doubt even a dejected old man would want to be found dead in that condition next to a drugged naked woman. If that was indeed his intention, then there are certainly some other deeper meanings in this movie that I have missed.

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But what explained their desire to sleep next to an unconscious, naked young woman while they were not allowed to have sex?


I believe it is the mere fact these men had a living, breathing (albeit unconscious) desirable young woman at their disposal and that was the main "turn on" so-to-speak... And even then I'm being too literal because this is NOT an erotic movie at all.

The first (and last) client clearly had the need for intimacy he used to have with his late wife. So, this is why he doesn't even try and do anything kinky with Lucy. Yes, he admires her like they all do (flipping her over, feeling her body), but it's not sexual at all. It's more of a confirmation that Lucy is real and what was happening wasn't a dream. Men are more visual when it comes to things like intimacy (damn our reptilian brains!), so this is why all the clients probably fondled her as well.

The second client seemed misogynistic at first, but if you listen to what he said to Lucy it's the same kind of nasty talk lovers say during foreplay, or in the heat of passion. If you notice, once he "mounts" her he looks like he is about to cry because he knows it's all "fake"; He even told the Madame he can't get hard anymore just moments before. So, he suffers from psychological impotency and needs somebody to dominate (the irony being Lucy can't fight back because she is unconscious).

The third client, the big sumo wrestler-type guy was similar to the second client. He needed to physically dominate somebody... But it was almost tragic how when he tried to lift Lucy off the bed he almost had a heart attack it seems (he was out of breath and almost panting).


The old man who died at the end had a long monologue in his first visit about his dead wife and a friend that had a near-fatal traffic accident, but I don’t see how that might provide any particular insight on what finally happened at the end.


I believe he committed assisted suicide because he is wealthy and can choose to go out how he wants. He probably has enough money to cover up how he was found with Lucy since discretion is what the Madame emphasizes more than once. Again, the reason I believe it was assisted suicide was because of his first visit when he told the Madame soon he "won't be able to stand anymore and will need her help" which I believe was code for helping him end his life.

However, the more fascinating aspect is he just did not want to die alone.

If you notice, they portrayed him as a "noble" client because we never saw him physically abuse Lucy... Unlike the guy who burned her with the cigarette... Nor did he ever try and get freaky with her. So, this is why I believe his last wish was to die with somebody full of life (Lucy in her prime).

Think of the ending to "Blade Runner" where Roy Batty saves Deckard just because Deckard was alive. These two had been trying to kill each other moments before, but at the end, Roy didn't want to die alone. Roy appreciated life in the final moments of his as he slipped away.

Now, with all of that said, I didn't think the film is all that great.

It's too slow and none of the characters are likable... Including Lucy which I know was done on purpose for the whole "sleep walking through life" motiff... But this means we are left with a movie that tries to be "deep", but instead just has a lot of nudity -- not sex -- On display, but it doesn't come off erotic because of the disturbing images and implications behind the nudity within the context of the film.

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I think the death was an accident and not an “assisted suicide” as some posters had suggested. When the lady of the house gave him the drug, she asked if he was “sure”

I don't think he answered this, but he did say at one point " all of my bones are broken". The saying "rise up and walk, none of your bones are broken is a biblical reference" It was certainly an intentional suicide.

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People definitely love this film or hate it. You rarely find anyone who says 'well, it was ok.' For me, that sort of shows that it touches a nerve, somehow.

As to the character of Lucy, it moved me incredibly. It's subtle, but read up a little on Borderline Personality Disorder and then consider Lucy's actions again. She has BPD in the worst way, whether that's simply meant for a character study, or possibly as an allegory for women in society in general. Either way, her actions made a lot of sense to me, that is, I could completely understand someone acting this way even knowing that it was self-destructive and extremely dangerous. And that made her seem very real to me.

About the concept of the 'sleeping beauty', this is actually a rather common fantasy, for a man to 'have his way' with a sleeping woman (and it's not only men who have the fantasy; many women confess to having a fantasy of being taken advantage of while they sleep). There's actually a name for the fetish, somnaphilia. I tend to think this aspect of the film is allegorical; as Lucy sleeps, these men show certain stereotypical or 'archetypal' behaviors, albeit under the guise of 'fetishism'.

But as to Lucy's actions and motivations, I see this more as a character study of a deeply troubled young woman.

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You rarely find anyone who says 'well, it was ok.'


I guess I'm the rare person who thought it was "ok". I didn't think it was horrible, and I'll admit that Emily Browning's nudity made it a lot more watchable. But I didn't think it was excellent either. It was too slow and dead-feeling to be truly enjoyable (yeah I know that's part of the point) and I don't think it was totally successful in conveying whatever messages or thematic elements it had.

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Somebody put it really well in another thread on this board: Lucy has given away nearly every single part of herself to the world around her. There is nearly nothing left in her life that is intimate or sacred, nothing left that is "hers". She'll have sex with anyone on the toss of a coin, she'll take any drug that is offered, she'll ask people to marry her on a whim, she'll do any job no matter how mundane, humiliating or weird. She has found a way to drift through life. Even the university course she's doing turns out to be meaningless (they're studying boardgames). She has sold nearly every part of her life, everything that makes her human, and she seems to be empty.

But we watch her have one human moment - one moment that is sacred, terrifying, and something she cannot "drift" through: when she lies beside Birdman as he dies. She's faced with awful meaning and truth of what it means to be human. And we see the real human Lucy - crying and shuddering in Birdman's arms as he dies.

Then at the end of the movie she wakes to discover that she's unwittingly sold this part of herself to someone else. The one thing left to her that made her human, the one thing that was sacred and real and awful and *hers*, is now a product. She shares people's dying moments for cash now.

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She screams at the end because she doesn't have control over THAT situation.
She's not a passive person, she's a manipulative, controlling little female dog.

And she's frustrated when things don't go her way, when someone is NOT addictive to her and when someone, ANYONE is free to tell her to f off.

Simple as that.




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The only time I saw any slight manipulation was at the funeral reception when she asked her ex boyfriend to marry her. Other than that, she was indeed a passive person. In addition to the fact that she volunteers to be drugged unconscious for men to do whatever with her, she lets her body be used for disturbing experiments. She allows herself to be used for sex in the club twice and those were just the times that we are shown. She gets herself fired from a perfectly easy office job. She gives her credit card number to her alcoholic mother who calls her at work for it without hesitation (this says to me that her mother has been manipulating her for most or all of her life). She takes any drug that anyone offers her. Then, she lets her close friend use her to have someone to die next to, which is really the main reason for her screaming at the end...it reminded her of the time she lied next to her friend (Birdman) while he died, and now it happened again.

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If she's so innocent, why does she pout all through the movie like she's a self-sufficient slut?
I felt only arrogance coming from her attitude.
The way she just sits there, looking bovine as her boss is firing her.
Like she's too good to talk to anyone , even in her own defense. WTF?

She acts like she knows she's hot and she parades herself as a commodity, a luxury item.



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Her arrogance is a mask to hide her pain. You can clearly see her real self coming through when she's around her dying friend. Also when she sees the woman on the bus, it's obvious that this unconscious woman both reminds her of her alcoholic mother and also makes her realize what she must look like to whoever is in the room with her when she's drugged. I think Lucy thinks that her looks are really all she has, so she uses her looks/sexuality to get money. She is trying through the whole movie to not deal with the reality of her situation by covering her true feelings and emotions up with a tough exterior, when inside, she's the furthest thing from tough. Emily did a great job at playing this character exactly the way she was meant to be.

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"If she's so innocent, why does she pout all through the movie like she's a self-sufficient slut?"

I think her lips are just like that. She's not physically pouting. And she never looks to me like she thinks she is better than anyone; if anything she finds herself worthless. Anyone can do anything they want to her and she never bats an eye or complains or defends herself. She doesn't care.

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The key to understand Lucy, which would be key to understanding the film as it is very much a character study, is that she says: "Fear of death is the biggest hoax."

She seems to lack any care, especially for herself. This is evident with her drug use, sex life and the burning of the money. She is completely self-destructive and has lost all desire and want to live, losing the fear of death. It wasn't until her friend/boyfriend, "The Birdman" died that she seemed somewhat curious about life again. Suddenly, she wanted to know what was happening to her while she slept.
Now whether the Birdman died of AIDS or cancer or some other illness or not is unclear and does not matter. In the end, he committed suicide and we are given enough hints that he was dying from an illness through-out the film. Therefore, Clara did not seek assistance or help for him when she found him dying in bed from the over-dose of pills, instead letting him die holding her. His death was the beginning of her waking from her apathetic slumber through and of life. Curiosity returned. Thus, she bought the camera.

As others have suggested, she did not want to die on camera. I do not believe that was her intention at all. Having a near death experience with the over-dose of the sleeping tea and waking up to a dead man was enough to fully wake her and she became afraid of death once more. The film ends with her finally fully awaking to the realities of life and death. She was sleeping though the entire film, in a sense. It ends when she awakes.

If you're looking for more specifics, I would say that, like any arthouse film, it is up to you to decide for yourself. Use your intuition. Films and novels like these are tools to strengthen intuition and I treasure them for it! People can call this pretentious crap but after working in indie film for 10 years and running an international film festival for 2, I can say that this film is open to interpretation and not nearly as pretentious as 80% of the other "art" films I have worked on and screened. I believe there if there is one clear message it is that we all need to WAKE UP!

I hope this helps. :)

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I understand the entire premise of the movie.
I just don't think that Babydoll is right for the part.
That actress made Lucy look conceited.

It made me want to tear the screen from its sockets, throw it into the street then go out just to jump up and down on its mangled residues.

And that's saying little about the anger I felt watching this movie.




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Fair enough. Usually when I see an interview with George Lucas or James Cameron or hear Spielberg of Michael Bay are producing or directing new films or I hear of another Twilight movie becoming #1 at the Box Office - I want to do those same things. It's understandable. :)

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