Pretentious Crap


Its sick to see people wasting money on so called "art" when they could be using it more productively and helping people in need or helping underfunded schools. Graffiti isn't art, the people making it may have talent but they also have gigantic ego's. What gives them the right to assume the whole planet is theirs and they can do whatever they want to whoever they want. They don't own the buildings and homes that they are ruining with their graffiti. How would they like it if I walked into their homes and urinated on their beds and called it art? That's basically what they're doing to other people.

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Well it's clear you've thought this out completely and made a really good argument. We can assume most of these artists live in pretty nice Hollywood-style lofts or typical suburban McMansions so, yeah, they'd be really, really mad if someone walked into their home, stood up on their Thomasville bed, pulled back their Ralph Lauren sheets and peed all over their Tempurpedic beds. Imagine if the the micturator had asparagus beforehand?!

Art for them with a stinky bed? Yeah, not. I would suggest trying this theory out. Have you tried to find Banksy or Fairey? Either one will probably be found on a given night just lounging at home, watching Idol on the DVR. Just bust in and let it spray. You'll show them your art!

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I was going to type up a big reply, but a quick look at it's posts shows that it's a troll that doesn't respond to the threads it creates.

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This is ironic.

OP comes to a "public area" to "express" him/herself, yet bitches and whines that these artists are doing the exact same thing only in the real world.

Some may appreciate the op's expressions, others may find it ugly and unattractive.

See the logic??

Op, you're a moron. I reserve that word for true idiots, you earned it.

You don't own these boards you troll, but some admin will have to come around and sand blast your views from the walls of IMDB because they are ugly. Legal vs illegal is not the point here. Publicly expressing your opinion/view IS the point, which is exactly what you just did in homage to the very artists you are angered by.

Embarrassing.

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Idiotic. This is a private space offered for public use. They paint on private spaces not offered for public use. You have to be really dumb not to grasp the distinction.


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Jesus Christ, it's hard to believe how ridiculous this comment is. Comparing writing on walls in the street with posting in an internet forum? Really?

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When Banksy was in LA for the film's opening, he did a piece on the side of a building overlooking a parking lot with the word PARKING. He painted out the "ing," turning it into Park and then added a little girl swinging from the bar of the A. The owners of the building did not feel violated by this -- they arranged to have the piece sprayed over with some kind of clear coat to protect it. They recognized that it had some value as art and they embraced it.

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Interesting story! Thanks for that info!

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Here's a pic:
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OP, I can't believe I'm actually going to have to agree with you to an extent. The people that blasted you for posting your thoughts here are incorrect in their argument for no other reason than this is a legal, acceptable medium to share one's thoughts. The side of a building is not. If the building owner happens to appreciate the genius, then they can choose to keep it, but everybody appreciating it equally is not inevitable. Just like pissing in a bathroom is appropriate, but pissing in public is not (which is why it's illegal in most places). Consider IMDB message boards that public bathroom. So your post is far from ironic; people had the choice to click this link, as opposed to being forced to read it.

If their art is so cool (which it's completely fabulous and genius in pretty much every way), why aren't they painting it on a canvas or some "legal" medium that is not only...well....legal, but it's preserved forever? Even if they give it away for free (which would accomplish two goals of not selling out, all the while getting their art out there to be seen by the masses). It's my opinion that plastering Andre the Giant's face with the word "Obey" under it would get super old, super fast if it were restricted to a canvas or some other similar medium. Conversely, Banksy's art could be put on a canvas (for lack of a better term) and would not get old because each and every piece is unique and makes a strong statement (in my opinion). Not that "Obey" does not; it's just that some art is only considered art because of where it's located, as opposed to what the content of the material is. Propaganda doesn't have to be confined to a building side.

I'm just trying to imagine a world where every single artist took it upon themselves to force their art on a populous. I'm imagining that pretty much every nook and cranny of our cities would be filled with paint. Maybe it would happen to look nice, but regardless, this is the reason why I agree with you. It's not that I don't enjoy what they do, or that I don't enjoy seeing their art (I've seen their art all over L.A. many times). It's just that if EVERYBODY did it, we might run into some sort of social issue. Since they are under the impression that they are better at what they do and therefore deserve to paint on whatever property they see fit, it indeed makes them pretentious, hence, me agreeing with you....to an extent.

Banksy is still a genius and a really, really great artist. But that's besides the point. Btw, speaking of rip offs, did anybody notice the rip off of Basquiat in this movie, when Thierry's cousin (was it his cousin?) painted "SAMO" with the crown? That irked me more than anything. THAT is not only a copycat, but a straight forgery of Basquiat and I had a problem with that more than anything in this movie.

Pretentious? Perhaps. Crap? Definitely not. At least to me, anyway.

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"If their art is so cool (which it's completely fabulous and genius in pretty much every way), why aren't they painting it on a canvas or some "legal" medium that is not only...well....legal, but it's preserved forever?"

I think the answers to this may be: 1) their work is seen by many more people when painted on a building, as opposed to on canvas and in someone's personal collection or hanging in a gallery, 2) they're able to respond to social issues much more quickly by painting on buildings, 3) they avoid the gallery system, which might be seen as corrupt, 4) there's an "outlaw" thrill to painting on buildings, and 5) there's a certain beauty to things that are ephemeral. But I'm just guessing.

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