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Unable to suspend my disbelief of the "processing" scene


I've read in a few places how wondrous and astonishing this scene is, how perfect the filmmaking is...

But it simply makes no logical sense to me, and nothing like it ever has in film. Why are people so quick to believe that simply by repeating questions to someone over and over (a shrink to a patient, an interrogator to an accused criminal, etc.), the questioner will then suddenly, magically, "break through"?

But of course, every time, those epiphanies and confessions magically follow.

Never bought this trope in anything else, why would I buy it here? Am I missing something?

Additionally, and somewhat off-topic but maybe not entirely off-topic, I did not care for this film. If you're going to present a "flat" narrative, without plot points or a conventional story arc, the characters damn well better be interesting to watch, and I found neither of the leads interesting characters (not to say the performances were poor, just that the characters to me were your more-or-less standard cult leader and your more-or-less standard angry, drunken, dim-witted veteran).

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its called psychological pressure, by refusing to accept the answer and asking again, they make the person give another answer to please the person asking, pleasing is a natural need for most people, so it can make a great deal of pressure, plus it adds to confusion with the irritation that steems from hearing or doing the same thing over and over.


works with some people, most of the movie depicted methods are self-suggestion.

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I think it's worth taking into account the mindset of the character being processed. You, the viewer, seem to be educated and of ostensibly sound mind. Freddy, on the other hand, was a slow-witted, irrational, and impressionable soldier with significant psychological trauma (both from war and family history) and an extremely vulnerable quality following his return home. I can see how someone like him would be sucked into Master's treatments, whether or not they actually worked. He might just believe they worked because Master told him so -- power of suggestion.

It's okay with me.

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Read up on scientology. Fiction can reveal facts.

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The "process" is very targeted. It is based on psychology.

What the interviewer, psychiatrist or even law enforcement are looking for are certain body ticks displayed by the interviewee during questioning. The interviewer than concentrates on the questions that caused nervous responses.

Watch the scene again, you will see that Freddie displays a number of grimaces, nervous self touching (face, head), shoulder shrugs etc. As he repeats the questions that caused Freddie distress, it breaks down Freddie's resistance and causes him to feel he can't hide his own lies. Until finally he reveals himself.

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