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Freddie and the Master's daughter

posted 9 years ago by KidDBrock
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I would like to hear how people interpret that scene in Laura Dern's house where the daughter (Elizabeth?) practically jerks Freddie off with her husband right in the room.

I feel like this is another extension of the scene with Dodd's son, where we find out that the Master's own family kind of thinks it's all bullsh*t. Does the daughter see Freddie as the embodiment of someone who is the opposite of the Cause, and she is secretly attracted to that?

She is obviously scared of that attraction or at least anyone knowing about it, as she later says that it is Freddie who makes her uncomfortable and it is he that wants her sexually. Her actions during Dern's speech show a blatant disrespect for the Cause, and I feel like it shows that her character doesn't really believe in the Cause. She would like to be an "animal" like Freddie is. In England, it sounds like she has been sent away and is in the process of being reprimanded in some way.

I feel like I sort of get what was happening, but does anyone else have a good interpretation of this scene?

[–] kmags84 9 years ago

Can we really "Tame" all of our ways? That's one way I view the scene(Along with the film itself)... Freddie runs around, he's a "Beast" in Dodds view and he's also representative of that missing part of his life. Can you really just suppress all of those feelings you have? She's very much attracted to his Wild Ways so to say. That's why I love the Final 2 scenes so much. They are NOT Gay, as many have put it. They just have a connection to each other because of their 180° lifestyle. Freddie wishes to be like Lancaster in many ways and this is especially true Vice Versa... But Freddie is a free man, one who wants to enjoy the fruits of life, even if its in excess. Who really is 'The Master'?

[–] dsgoorevitch 9 years ago

Yeah, I think you've got a good part of it, but think of what had happened just before that scene. Freddie got her husband out of the room at 3 AM, to go beat up the guy who'd publicly put down the only man who'd ever accepted him and shown genuine affection. That showed leadership: a powerful aphrodisiac. It also put her husband in an inferior position. Remember the wedding kiss? She broke away from him & there was a look something like disgust, or disappointment. Compare it to the two brothers in "And God Created Woman." Bardot marries Michele, who's like Elizabeth's husband: too nice, but longs for a more brutal, honest, physical man, like Antoine/Freddie.

I don't make much of her statement around the table, except that she's trying not to show her hand. She has to join in.