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Way overhyped and overrated.


If this had been a indie film with an unknown director and cast everyone would think that it was awful. I feel as if people only say that they like it because they think that because it has PSH and Phoenix in it they should. They don't want to be seen as stupid so they say they like it.

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They don't want to be seen as stupid so they say they like it.


These are literally some of the worst arguments I've ever seen.

Howard Hughes was Italian?

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I agree

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The good thing I can say in defense of The Master is how such a simple story can be made into an impressive event. Everything about this movie is outstanding. The acting should be the first thing aspiring drama actors should watch, from the main characters to the expressions of performers who appear only in the background or for a couple seconds. The story flows in sometimes a weird way that keeps the viewer wondering what's next at the same time making him/her enjoy every single moment. The way the music is provided in certain scenes works perfectly with the mood of the characters. The cinematography and all the colors in the movie are impressive. And the motifs of the characters are powerful as hell, come on. Joaquin Phoenix is a guy who lost it all or probably never had anything. He came back from war and couldn't find a place to settle. He fails in all his jobs, he is a hard drinker, he doesn't know what he wants, he's angry and still he sometimes has a good time. Philip Seymour Hoffman is just a man who is trying to give his points of views of life in strange ways. That dragon speech is something else. Every conversation in the movie tells us something humanly interesting about these people and at the end we basically know their personalities. You just need to observe them closely and see how a director can create such authentic characters and that's what you learn from this movie. The only thing this movie intends is its story, characters and development to be enjoyed and that doesn't mean everyone should like it. PTA doesn't make his films in order to show what a smart guy he is. He just tells stories in his own way hoping some people will enjoy his style of filmmaking.

Moreover, the other characters in the film are just struggling to live because they really believe 'The Cause' is something true in a wrecked world. Yeah, maybe the cause is full of crap or nonsense but another great thing about the movie is that it doesn't take sides. This is not a movie about scientology. It's just a portrayal of individuals who think something they are inclined to feels real. And they suffer throughout the whole film trying to support it. Some of them are confused, others diligent, and others just going with the flow trying to figure something out of their lives. Like I said before, a good thing about this movie is how a simple little story can be turned into such high quality filmmaking. If you don't like it it's ok. Maybe it didn't work for you. But don't be unfair, don't tell people they are pretentious just because you didn't like a movie. It's just a matter of preference. I am sure people hate it and it's fine, that's their taste and there's nothing wrong with it. But don't be an a-hole and start talking in general. It just makes people think you are an irritating person that only thinks about him/herself.

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