MovieChat Forums > The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones (2013) Discussion > So, I just finished watching this, and I...

So, I just finished watching this, and I have a few questions....


... so I take it the new thing in Young Adult literature/film is to romanticize incest?

WTF did I just watch???

Nothing made any sense. I don't know if this is the fault of the book or of the director/screenwriter, but being someone who hasn't read the series, this was horrid. It started out well... I thought within the first 10 minutes I may be watching a really good film. But, no. It was just random and had so many plot holes and so many unexplained events (which, to be fair, may or may not be explained in any possible upcoming sequels)? And it was just plain weird and confusing.

For instance:

- How come Simon was able to see the shadow hunters (or whatever they're called) right away? At first we're told only other shadow hunters can see other shadow hunters, but then this dude can randomly see them? I think he said something about a rune and that's why he could see them, but I didn't understand WTF he was talking about.

- On that note, how come they were so willing to let Simon into their lair when all they kept reiterating to Clary that "no one can be trusted-- not even people you've known your whole life." Oh, I guess they can trust the random weird dude that's able to see them but shouldn't be able to see them...?

- Why are Blonde Ambition Tour & Clary (i.e. Luke and Leia) still so turned on by one another after they find out they are brother and sister? Is this TWILIGHT for first cousins in Alabama?

- Why on earth would Cersei Lannister hide the cup in a tarot card and give it to a demon-witch CCH Pounder? Wouldn't it have been easier just to hide it in a painting of hers since no one could get to it except her/her daughter anyway?? Also, as a side note, who the *beep* names their child CCH? Jason Voorhees?

- What the heck did Cersei Lannister drink out of the vile? And why was in everything hidden in a flea market nightmare box?

- When did Jonathan Rhys Meyers' career become so bad that he had to star in this POS?

- Why did the gay Asian magician wear hot pants but no fishnets and heels? I mean, puh-leez.

- Why did all the human werewolves look like bears (gay culture, not the animal)?

- Why did Simon get bitten by a vampire and then Clary just decides to ignore it? Ummm, don't you think that would be important to tell him and your friends before something bad happens? And why didn't anything happen to him anyway, aside from getting the awesome power of 20/20 vision. :-/

- Why does blonde wanna-be Edward sound like he's faking a British accent even though he was born in England?

- Why does Hollywood keep writing movies for tweens? You would think with the subject matter of demons and such that they could use that fodder to make an excellent R-rated horror series for adults... but noooooooo. Instead we get the cast of FRIENDS making horrible romantic-comedies one after another.

*le sigh*

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There are some good YA books that did well as movies. Hunger Games, Book Thief, and Harry Potter are a few.

But I won't defend this movie. It was garbage. The love triangle thing has been beaten to a pulp and it felt like a twilight wannabe (twilight sucked too)

They tried to make the werewolves look like bears because they were ripping it from trublood, hell, even the wardrobes were identical.

If we really sat down and wrote every plothole....it would be as long as the book

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I haven't read the books, so I don't have all of the answers:

http://shadowhunters.wikia.com/wiki/The_Shadowhunters'_Wiki
http://shadowhunters.wikia.com/wiki/The_Shadowhunters%27_Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Bones_(Mortal_Instruments)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Bones_%28Mortal_Instruments%29

http://shadowhunters.wikia.com/wiki/The_Mortal_Instruments:_City_of_Bo nes
http://shadowhunters.wikia.com/wiki/The_Mortal_Instruments:_City_of_Bones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mortal_Instruments:_City_of_Bones



- How come Simon was able to see the shadow hunters (or whatever they're called) right away? At first we're told only other shadow hunters can see other shadow hunters, but then this dude can randomly see them? I think he said something about a rune and that's why he could see them, but I didn't understand WTF he was talking about.


The shadow hunters use runes as a source of power, and they allowed Simon to see them.


- Why are Blonde Ambition Tour & Clary (i.e. Luke and Leia) still so turned on by one another after they find out they are brother and sister? Is this TWILIGHT for first cousins in Alabama?


Probably because they know they can't trust Clary's dad to tell the truth. Which he wasn't.


- Why on earth would Cersei Lannister hide the cup in a tarot card and give it to a demon-witch CCH Pounder? Wouldn't it have been easier just to hide it in a painting of hers since no one could get to it except her/her daughter anyway?? Also, as a side note, who the *beep* names their child CCH? Jason Voorhees?


The witch wasn't a demon witch. A demon took the form of the witch.


- What the heck did Cersei Lannister drink out of the vile?


Usually Angel blood is drank from the cup, but her husband was having her drink his blood from the cup.


This is what I've gathered from the movie. There's room for error.






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... so I take it the new thing in Young Adult literature/film is to romanticize incest?


You obviously never heard of Flowers in the Attic? And that predates City of Bones.... by 20 years.


- Why are Blonde Ambition Tour & Clary (i.e. Luke and Leia) still so turned on by one another after they find out they are brother and sister? Is this TWILIGHT for first cousins in Alabama?


You could say they instinctually know that they possibly aren't related. which they obviously aren't.


- What the heck did Cersei Lannister drink out of the vile?


It was something that would put her into a coma so Valentine couldn't found out from her where the cup was. I'm not sure what it was though since it's not revealed (I assume) until the third book.

- Why did the gay Asian magician wear hot pants but no fishnets and heels? I mean, puh-leez.


He wasn't even wearing what he wore in the book so you got me there.


- Why did Simon get bitten by a vampire and then Clary just decides to ignore it? Ummm, don't you think that would be important to tell him and your friends before something bad happens? And why didn't anything happen to him anyway, aside from getting the awesome power of 20/20 vision. :-/


That was bad movie mistake. In the book, Simon drank the drink and it turned him into a rat, later the vampires at Magnus' party snatched him from Clary because they thought he was one of their own (apparently when vampires got drunk they turned into dust or something? not sure) and Clary and Jace went to the hotel the vampires hid out in and when the fight broke out, Simon bit the leader of the vampires (he was cut from the movie) and later after they escaped the hotel did the spell wore off and he turned back to normal, only really later in the second book were there signs he was becoming a vampire and he finally turned.

I don't know WHY they completely changed it other than budget issues and that apparently Simon being a rat was cheesy or something.

- Why does Hollywood keep writing movies for tweens? You would think with the subject matter of demons and such that they could use that fodder to make an excellent R-rated horror series for adults... but noooooooo. Instead we get the cast of FRIENDS making horrible romantic-comedies one after another.


So apparently tweens shouldn't be into supernatural adventure and intrigue? It's only for adults? This complaint is starting to wear thin.






I would always rather be happy than dignified. [bounce]

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Flowers in the Attic was a horror book exploiting the incest. Mortal Instruments is a YA romance/Paranormal Genre. HUGE difference.

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Flowers in the Attic was a horror book exploiting the incest. Mortal Instruments is a YA romance/Paranormal Genre. Not a very good argument defending incest.

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Even so, My point is (and I am not defending incest, whatsoever) City of Bones is not the first nor the last YA to romanticize incest.

I would always rather be happy than dignified. 😁

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Um… did you miss the line Hodge said (which basically spoils the reveal later in the books) that Valentine should LIE to Clary and Jace and say both of them are his children?

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Read the book! alot better than the movie and it explains better with whats going on! The movie just didn't explain anything at all!! and I wonder if it was because they didn't have time to explain every little thing...I got everything because i've read the book. Not definding it or anything...

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What happened to Hodge when he went to let the demons out? He was surrounded by them, then they cut to another scene. I assume they killed him. Probably since he could clear up the Clary/Jace sister/brother issue.

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Why does Hollywood keep writing movies for tweens?


Because tweens also enjoy watching movies?

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