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I'd say this film felt quite anti-woke in its messaging.
Corrupt chick el presidento, lots of gen Z BS scammers, a dude punishing them all - corrupt police, justice system, vile feministas,
Basically.... the new normal being destroyed by an old timer

Not saying the film is amazing, but the messaging is surprisingly anti-woke.
That's a rather pleasant surprise in that regard.

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The president is a white woman, and she is not corrupt, her white son is. The ex-CIA director was a white man, he was corrupt.

The new CIA director is a woman.

The new Beekeeper is a woman.

The FBI vice director is a black man, the main FBI agent in charge is a black woman.

So this certainly is progressive, the only surprise is you take this as anti-woke. I think it shows brainwashing does work.

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Every now and again, I get bored enough to engage with one of the more idiotic people on Moviechat:

NOTHING you described is "woke." As countless people have pointed out in countless posts, you CANNOT assign intent to casting choices, without much, Much more info than you will ever have. MORE IMPORTANTLY:

1) Forced diversity is Not "Woke," any more than "MAGA" is conservative.
2) "Progressive" doesn't mean what you think it does, and it is certainly Never A Perjorative.
3) "Woke" simply means "I'm aware that serious social inequities exist; I'll try to stay aware of them."

Example: Trans people exist, they deserve respect: Woke. Trans women should compete with biological women: NOT Woke. (Stupidity. See the difference?)

Conclusion: you're an ignorant fool who desperately searches for things to be outraged about. Please, PLEASE: Do Not Breed.

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The language you used is far more juvenile than OP, you really should look at yourself in the mirror.

Anyway you are the sort of people I put on ignore list, even though this looks like an account you use for trolling. I think at the core you are clearly a coward.

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It takes someone who is a special kind of stupid to refer to concepts/language over their head as "juvenile."

Of course: you don't (can't) respond intelligently to the substance of my post.

Anyway, feel free to ignore me: doesn't make you any less of an idiot.

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Breeze, you're woke, and a prentious prick of a wokie at that.







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Deckard, you're an idiot, and an idiot who's bad at basic reading comprehension at that.

Not surprising in someone who doesn't even know they're an artificial person. Shrug.

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maybe the problem is that you idiots analyse everything through this woke vs non-woke lens and apply it to EVERYTHING even when it's not there.

maybe it's not woke or anti-woke, maybe it's just a shitty action film and you're just obsessed losers who can't help but apply your small minded political opinions onto everything you see

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I get what you're saying -
I do indeed start looking at most films/series through that lense these days. What I mean to say is - wokism is now part of my review process. Woke = minus points. Regular film= plus points (or at least, no deductions).

It may upset you, and I get it. If it deeply offends you, so be it.
Do keep in mind, back in the day, feminists used to do the same thing to films. They actually had a whole review system in place to measure how unrepresented women were - how much screen time women got, how much screen time with the lead women got, how much dialogue women had, how they were depicted, what social role they represented, etc, etc.

What's funny is that there were no investment firms paying to push women down in films back then. What we are seeing in films now - as far as DEI and ESG is concerned, is by far more intentionally pushed by various big-name investment firms and film corporation CEOs.

In other words, what feminists saw was most likely either due to business decision or because of society not being progressive enough. The discrimination via woke agenda I am observing now is by far more sinister in comparison. So, yeah - I'll continue to bring it up. Sorry.

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The bad guys were tech\nft\crypto bros, people associated with the anti-woke crowd. Adam Clay was doing all this for an older black teacher who was "the only one who cared about me" - when anti-woke crowd has a widespread belief that teachers are bad and indoctrinating children. Hatred for corrupt cops is a WAY more common belief among the woke crowd. I've no idea how you came to your conclusion.

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Hmm.... I assumed the tech peeps with purple hair were more akin to big tech and the woke antifa mob.
Having said that, you could be right - at least, as far as hollywood perception is concerned. Them going after grandmas may also be indicative of them being aligned with anti-woke and anti-vax crowed (grandma killers?).

I think making them sound like antifa and with woke hairstyles is what led me to think that way. It's possible that this is how hollywood sees the anti-woke movement? If so, curious.

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I think you have a very superficial view of what woke is if you think hairstyles dictate what a person's political views are. Big tech is largely seen as an enemy for left-wing groups as the top leaders in tech largely have conservative beliefs, anti-labor practices, and have ever-growing influence over governments - to only name a few of the problems with them. I do not know any tech leaders that are lauded by the left. And to be clear, the left-wing should not be confused with centrists/liberals (i.e. most Democrats).

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Pray tell what you think 'woke' means - and please tell me the current definition, not the original definition, because that's what I'm going with.

As for left/right situation - that shit is getting quite confusing isn't it? I side with Jimmy Dore - he's against the Ukraine/Gaza war BS, he's against the lockdown/vaxx mandates.

I will say though that when I look at dems/reps - I see a uniparty. As for the original left, it seems to have disappeared. How many openly spoke out and did not get vaxxed? The percentage is tiny. How many speak out against censorship? The percentage is tiny. If true far left still exists, it's a tiny percentage of the population. These days, things are becoming quite convoluted - uniparty plays both roles - most of the population has essentially been captured. Big tech played a huge role in that capture. If we go by what far left truly is, wokism (the current definition) ain't a part of that.

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Dore is a massive grifter lol. The right-wing drift on a chunk of left-leaning online media personalities should be studied.

"Woke" has no standard definition that I've seen anyone put out - moreso I've seen a few big anti-woke people struggle to define it when asked - but it seems to be a nebulous idea of whatever right-wing people dislike at that moment in time. My point was assuming the politics of someone with purple hair is woke is extremely outdated.

I am not American, but I am Canadian and have seen in both countries the over-the-top violent reaction to peaceful students protesting the genocide in Gaza, much stronger than the reaction to January 6 or anti-vax protests. All the right-wing free speech warriors are super quiet - they're happy to see their enemies get silenced. Anti-censorship is much more a cause of the right than the left so I'm going to look at the right with more contempt because of that failure in consistently defending free speech.

I am not sure what you mean by far left, as that to me means communists and yes I would agree that is not a large number.

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I think you may be confused, but then we are living in confusing times. I see a lot of people essentially lacking any sort of principles. Dore has principles - so he's got plenty of targets, given that every political party and supposed ideology is full people who have no principles at all. Yet, you call Dore a grifter ^^ Do you have any principles, I wonder? I suspect not - after all, so few appear to have them and/or stick by them, these days.

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The black female saying "Let's just ignore the big white dude in her house with a knife" reeks of woke pandering, where if they had said "Let's just ignore the big black dude in her house with a knife", there would have been never ending cries of "racism".

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The fact that the young, 20-something daughter with her mod-squad afro haircut and blithe racism about the white protagonist was also portrayed as the supremely competent, heroic FBI agent (compared to every other bumbling / helpless federal officer in the film) proves the writers were absolutely trying to preserve their woke Hollywood bona fides.

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