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Concerning austrailia and aussies


Gotta tell ya. Im from th USA, and I MUST visit AUstrailia. Not ony is incredibly beautiful, the people see totally likable. Their resolve and "get it done" attitude reminds me of the US. They do what they thing is right, what right for them and wil stop at NOTHING to get it.

Seems the guy, AND the women are individualistic, people who could care LESS what others say about them (knowing that its said in jealousy for the most part.) and create a heaven on earth country. COmplete with gorgeous landscape, fantastic services, and the best part....................... A PERSONAL FREEDOM WHERE THE GOVERNMENT KEEPS THIER LOUS STICKY PAWS OFF THE CITIZENS STUFF, MONEY AND FREEDOMS. They seem to want NOTHING for the government except to leave them alone and allow them to create their own lives.

Oh, and the women are ..............INCEDIBLE...

AUSTRAlIA- keep up the great work, let the decay happein in Europe. Be the leaders of the future!!!!

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Why would you visit some place because it reminds you of a familiar place? "I wanna visit Scotland because being from England it reminds me of home" You could just stay home.

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Scotland is nothing like England!


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No *beep*

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I think they are all a bunch of rude dumbass wankers and I wish people like Nicole Kidman, Mel Gibson, Sam Neill and Anthony Lapaglia would just go back home.

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Yeah you tell 'em, smelly australians.

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... but you'll note that Australian actors can fake an American accent. How may Americans can act as an Aussie?

If you (as a nation) did not feel the need to remake great films (movies) for an American audience, you might actually learn something.

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Actually except for Mel, I was just kidding.

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What's funny about the op's comments is the Australian government gets so much more of your money than here in the U.S. It's actually quite a socialist leaning government with a strong presence of unions. It's funny that what some people here in the States would call a Communist hell hole (If evil Obama gets his way) is somehow a free thinking paradise on earth lol!!

Australia is a great place and I'm proud to be from there.

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Our teabaggers are incredibly small minded, backwards people. Their concept of Communism is anyone to the left of Sarah Palin. I guess they serve a useful purpose as a counterweight to all the welfare state types, though. I am proud to be from the USA too.

Furthermore, both Americans and English have a romantic view of Aussies as being some backwoodsmen Crocodile Dundee types when most of them live in a few large urban areas just like their countries. The English would always says stupid stuff like the Canadians were better fliers and the Aussies were better soldiers than ours because they grew up on the frontier. When the truth was the dominion armies selected officers based on merit, not class or the right schools, and spent more time training their troops and fliers compared to the lame UK standards.

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I'm liking you Jakealope.

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To-gnome-chomsky-Mel Gibson, for one. Born in New York State, USA.

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I agree with you, there are a lot of similarities between Americans and Australians (which is probably why we generally like each other and get along quite well).

I honestly believe that because the US and Australia are part of the 'new world'; we are both very young countries by world standards, we have had to try and forge out an identity in an already culturally developed world. We were both born into freedom and industrialisation and have no history of aristocracy. We have space so our cities are big and expansive rather than clustered into tiny spaces with houses on top of houses. We have diversity of (astoundingly beautiful) landscape that we don't take for granted.

Both of our countries provide the sense that anything is possible; you can achieve happiness if you just work hard enough. I also think that, because we are surrounded by such natural beauty we don't need to spend a lot of money to enjoy life. You can just sit on the beech with a beer and watch the waves crash onto the shore.

I can't speak for America but for Australia, America is the only other country in the world that truly represents our way of life and our cultural practices. We don't have the snobbery of Europe; we have a far more laid back attitude to life.

Thanks mate and cheers to you and yours!

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I'm utterly amazed that people are drawing parallels between Oz & Yank culture. Chalk & Cheese! Apart from the fact that both Yanks & Australians are equally guilty of having stolen the land from its rightful owners, the similarity ends here.

We don't even speak the same language. Each & every genuinely OZ movie (& English, Scots, Welsh, Irish et al) will invariably have a whining IMDB entry from some semi-literate mongoloid from the Western hemisphere complaining about "why do youse foreign types always talk with stoopid accents, cant youse talk normal-like"? Because as we all know the entire world speaks with entirely unintelligible languages & accents - except North America. Yanks apparently don't have any trace of an accent!

Let's conveniently ignore the fact that almost half of NA actually don't speak English either; usually French or Spanish. Australians also speak with a whole plethora of mother tongues. Whilst English may actually be much more ubiquitous numerically than in NA, this is taken as normal & healthy within an Australian multlicultural context.

Therein lies the greatest cultural contrast between the 2 continents: Australians, unlike specifically USA residents, just aren't as scared of the big bad world as Yanks invariably are. Here, kids actually walk to school, ride bikes even. Play in the streets, stay out all day at the weekend & come home for supper when it gets dark. We don't fear our neighbors, and especially don't get terrified by other people who don't look or sound like us! We try to embrace, rather than fear multiculturalism.

I've never, ever in my entire life ever felt the need to lock my door either day or night, except when the house is empty. Why would I wish to turn my home into a death-trap during a fire? I've rarely locked my car either: only if parked in a "dodgy" neighbourhood or maybe if filled with expensive goods or shopping. I live in an (albeit semi-rural) area with the nation's highest unemployment statistics.

The other fundamental difference is that Oz isn't really a violent society. We just don't feel the need to murder either our fellows or foreigners like Yanks do. Yanks kill each other for fun, as a job, and even in a cruel, medieval form of punishment! More disturbingly, I've noticed that so enveloping & ubiquitous is this killing culture that most Yanks don't even see the damage this does to society. Kids are actively encouraged to practise murdering each other in video simulations. Research has found that the hundreds of thousands of simulated murders can, and does, translate to a more sociopathic need for violence. I'm told that you still execute the mentally handicapped, like Hitler did in the concentration camps. Anybody with the mental age of ten is fair game for the legalised murder of execution!

In fact there's a whole disturbingly homoerotic subculture of violence happening here. Look at the kid's superbowl handball competitions that generates an almost gladiatorial frenzy, bloodlust & tribalism in both protagonists & spectators. Simultaneously intensely homosexual in its ritualised "extreme" male bonding rituals, and absence of actual gameplay, on the few infrequent occasions the ball is actually in play for a few seconds and the players can be persuaded away from their romantic embrace, the inherent violence becomes clear. The games tribal predecessor was I am led to believe actually played with human heads. Perhaps that's why they only throw the ball to each other like the negro netball game rather than kick it like the rest of the world does. Not just kids but even adults are trussed up head to foot in a ridiculous suit of plastic armour (including helmet) for a sporting game!! The message is clear: inflict rapid, severe violence & injury on others before they are able to defend themselves. Do not under any circumstances allow youself any harm whatsoever. Inflicting violence is good (& Christian). Receiving violence is bad (and evil).

This pathological fear, innate violence and need for slaughter is also unfortunately combined with the highest rate of gun ownership not only in the world, but also in human history! Each child gets to see over 3000 simulated and real violent deaths depicted before even reaching school age. There's more guns than people, together with billions of rounds of ammunition. Not hunting weapons either, but dedicated man-killers. A society in a state of perpetual terror, armed to the teeth with assault and battle weapons, immune to alien concepts of civilisation, mercy and fraternity, and descending into evermore primitive depths of tribalism, fear & hatred of the "other".

Yet nobody seems prepared to address the issue. In a country awash with drugs, booze & guns, it's little surprise there's an endemic contempt for authority, the rule of law and the right of ALL, not just white trash or any other tribe, to the benefits and opportunities that are universal rights. Mexico's pain is a direct result of the Yank's insatiable lust for illegal drugs of addiction. America is the problem, not Mexico! She fuels the demand, arms the protagonists and bankrolls the criminal enterprise.

Even more damning is a foreign policy with total disregard for international law, human rights and national sovereignty that has invaded, illegally occupied and annexed, raped and murdered its way across not just the entire North American continent but also a substantial proportion of the third world too. With the cost of millions of innocent civilian lives, bombed, burned, tortured and starved to death, or merely denied of access to healthcare, water or food, hospitalisation and shelter as an act of "war" that is in reality mere cruelty. The cruelty of illiterate, uncaring, immoral thugs unleashed on inocent civilian populations incapable of defending themselves. Some Yanks still think torture a legitimate and useful interrogation technique, despite having signed UN charters specifically banning the actual practises still inflicted, often upon the innocent to elicit false confession.

To compare my beloved nation to a race of homicidal, drug-crazed thugs is extremely offensive to me. Australia, whilst far from perfect, is a cultured, civilised nation that was born, and lives, in peace. Not in a bloodbath. We are not the same. Never have been, and (to my last dying breath) never will be.

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