All jokes are welcome, of course, but if you were to seriously make changes to this show in an attempt to save it and get it even remotely close to what it used to be, or better, what immediate or long-term changes would you make?
a) Kill off main characters regularly. It is a very dangerous world.
b) Keep the group together, not split up. The character interactions are the best aspect of the show.
c) Make the Walkers a threat again. Hordes of Walkers are no problem for our heroes, or their enemies.
d) Wrap it up. How much longer can this last?
e) Make them struggle against another group (of non-assholes) for resources. That would be a more interesting dynamic.
Great points. I think I agree with all of them. I just don't want it to abruptly end, without even a real attempt at a lab and a cure (other than the guy at the CDC in season 1), or it being revealed that either the walkers win out or humans restoring some sort of order and having some system of dealing with people turning after natural death.
Anyway, some official ending at least. I hate shows getting cancelled, especially after this long.
I've had a problem since the prison with them not locking, or at least closing their doors at night. How many times does a sick or injured person have to turn and cause havoc?
When I said wrap it up, I meant an exit strategy. It cant go on for twenty years like a comic book can.
Yeah, and even if they said the heat was the reasoning for the doors and windows being open - even in the winter, why isn't there always at least two people awake, standing guard?
I realize you could nit pick just about anything, if you wanted to, but other shows (including this one in the early days) are able to make things happen in more natural ways to generate plot progression.
Trim the cast down, keep a core group of Rick, Carol, Rosita, Aaron, Jesus, Gab and Michonne. Kill off the rest. I can't stand Daryl and I can't take the show seriously with characters like King Ezekiel.
Don't know if showrunners have this type of power, but I'd get in directors who actually have some vision.
Focus on the threat of zombies and the scarcity of supplies, medicine, food etc. No more human conflict for a while we've seen it, we get it.
Cut all the "deep" dialogue, just have characters speak to one another like real people would. Give the characters personality and stick with them, don't flip personalities just to suit the plot, the characters should drive the plot.
Show various locations, I am sick of looking at the woods, so I would have them searching towns, coastal area, anywhere where there is no green or trees.
Man, you nailed it. Exactly what it needs, and well-worded.
King Ezekiel was a big one for me, too. To me, his character seems like something that may work really well in the comic world (haven't gotten there yet), but just struggles to translate to television. A show that heavily relies on the viewer taking it serious, as if it's some form of our reality, is really hurt by a character that absolutely would not exist in our reality. And if he did exist, I don't think people would take to him that well, let alone follow him as a leader.
Oh yeah, the "deep" dialogue. You're right about that, as well. Tobin made me realize this thing they always do, even with small characters like him. They might have one line all series, something like, "Damn good potatoes, Mary" or mumble some affirmation of a leader's orders, and then, all of sudden on their death bed, they're going on with this Great Value version of some Gandhi or Buddhist monk type stuff.
I favor an extended sequence in which our zero impales himself in the colonic region with that reetodded stick of his while prancing around in the forest with the zombie horde in hot pursuit, falling forward and writhing and screeching like a draft-dodging lily-livered pansy in the forest duff as the walkers commence to frenzy beginning with a vivid bilateral kidney extraction and spinal peel followed by an agonizingly drawn-out and particularly messy decapitation during which Peacenik's head is revolved midway in the process to face us while a concurrently sudden occlusive twist of his still intact shrieking windpipe rewards us with a most satisfying final death squawk not to mention individually addressed quadratic dismemberments plus let's not neglect to savor the most essential "blood eagle" whereby the walkers reach into Mo's thorax between his back ribs and partially extract with surgical precision each still-respiring pink glistening lung to flutter over his soon-to-be ingested corpse (this process naturally preceding the aforementioned tracheal torsion) all of this of course being painstakingly documented in glorious Technicolor Panavision with rapid intercuts between real-time and slow motion with a gratuitous burgeoning orchestral score underpinning an unendurable crescendo of howling and groaning and gurgling and blurping curdled bleating screeches and squelching of spleen and intestines liver and stomach (containing the partially digested remains of his treasured last oatmeal burger of course) in addition to the (now obligatory) suggestion of a possible "under the dumpster" style avenue of potential escape and survival which will leave audiences all around the globe red-faced with rage and muttering in disgust.
Wrap up Tara's storyline. Make it messy & stupid just like her. Maybe have a zombie dig into her stomach and just rip it apart.
Threat of Negan is gone. Rick kills him. No more "big bad guys" just walkers, diseases, starvation - those would be the threats.
Casual sex would happen. Dunno who, don't care. In reality, this is something that would happen all the time.
Tricky Ricky being more of a badass. Less massive gunfire that misses your target.
Judith has some type of purpose, no clue what that could be. Maybe she's a genius, maybe she has the cure. something. Otherwise, keeping her alive is pointless.
-Stop focusing on fighting other groups
-Stop them making stupid mistakes
-Better dialogue
-More in-group conflict
-Hire someone how knows about guns and none of this full auto BS , spraying without hitting a thing and no instant head-shots when shooting walkers
-Make the walkers more dangerous
-Make the group have to be on the move or more on supply runs
-Something left of the Army or the Government (hint of what caused the virus or maybe if there's someone still working on it)
Good stuff. Yeah, it's really dumb to keep hinting at "Eugene making ammunition" being a major plot point, when everyone on all sides just keeps spraying rounds around like there's an infinite supply. Fully with you on the Army or government, too.
No long term, I would wrap the show up and try and let it keep whatever dignity it has left. Its run a long time and probably should have hung it up after season 5.
You may be right. I was hoping they could turn it around/save it, but Lizzie might have been a metaphor for the whole series. Doing a bunch of random, crazy shit that doesn't really make sense to the rest of us. It might have been time for "The Walking Dead" to look at the flowers.