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The first fifteen minutes seem decent...


I saw it was on HBO so I could watch some of it for free and just kind of laugh at how bad it was (I didn't have time to watch the whole thing). But then as I say, by fifteen minutes in I actually found it a pretty enjoyable watch. Was that other people's impressions at first, and then it went downhill later? Or am I just of a different opinion than most?

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I thought the first fifteen minutes did a pretty good job of selling the idea that the movie was going somewhere. But it wasn't, and later that became very apparent. Also, it really couldn't have gone anywhere, because the early stuff had the atmosphere of a serious buildup, but not the substance. The story-telling logic was not in place, as one buildup scene with no payoff followed another.

Consider the second and third Matrix movies. I like the second one more. In the third movie, the story collapses into incoherence. But, you can't really exonerate the second one, because by the time it finishes there's no logical ending possible, and the third movie has to collapse.

Modern movie audiences are trained to accept that strange things in the first third of the movie will pay off in the end. Sometimes that expectation is without foundation. But it's such a strong expectation that as long as a movie projects a sense that is going somewhere we feel like everything is going well, until the lack of payoff proves that things were never going well.

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No, they really aren't decent, not with that MORON of a teacher bringing everything down.

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It's not just that he's a moron, it's also that he's set up as a J. Jonah Jameson type of continuing enemy... and then nothing. He vanishes, which is logical, but then it was a waste of time to set him up in the first place.

Again, again and again: even if elements like the arch enemy teacher had been good, the setup scenes would still have failed because it all goes nowhere.

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This is somewhat what I felt as well. For the first 15 minutes, I was thinking "hey, this doesn't seem too bad".

Very quickly, though, it did go downhill.

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I'm still of the opinion that while it wouldn't have fixed the movie, opening with the science fair instead of Reed and Ben as kids would have improved it.

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The least you can say is that the stuff with Ben and Reed as kids can be thrown out. Why? Because the stuff with Ben and Reed as kids sets up their lifelong friendship, and in this movie that's a relationship that goes nowhere. Reed calls Ben to come on the trip to Planet Zero, and that's pretty much it.

The Tim Story Fantastic Four does a better job. It begins with Ben and Reed presenting Reed's "cosmic storm" plan to Victor, which is the equivalent of what you want. That is enough setup for the relationship between Ben and Reed, which is strong and relevant throughout the movie. Reed and Sue might never have connected properly if Ben hadn't set them up, Ben might never have become the Thing again if he had not needed to help Reed and Sue, who were menaced by Victor, and so on.

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Keeping the beginning might have worked better if Ben had also been invited to the institute. Storm knew that they both worked on the project for 5 years. Why throw away a possible resource, particularly since Storm couldn't have known how much Ben contributed?


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I even liked the first 30 minutes.

Reed and Ben's friendship was sweet at the start - seeing how they came together. Then the team working on the teleporter was decent. Then after they got their powers it went downhill.

I loved the "body horror" feel of when they discovered their powers. Reed's tremendous guilty and absolute horror as he saw Ben in his condition was some good stuff.

I really enjoyed the tone they were going for.

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I see your points. But then, yeah, it went downhill and to a really rushed ending.

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Really? I felt the first fifteen minutes could be cut out and we've still know that Ben is Reed's friend and Reed has been working on a teleporter.

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I suppose so, but they were enjoyable on their own terms.

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