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RT has this one sitting at 78% with 46 reviews in. Looking good!


I'm so happy that DC will have it's first hit since Wonder Woman. About damn time but better late than never! Early reviews coming in on AM seem to point in that direction.

With Shazam coming out in 2019, DC could get back on track and actually offer competition to the MCU. I think it's great and I'm mainly a Marvel guy! It pissed me off the way Warner Bro's managed to nearly meteorite the entire DC franchise with the horrendously awful BVS. Bats and Supes deserved far better! At some point, they need to be brought back in. They are still the most iconic characters in comic books.

Aquaman and Shazam look much, much better than those past DCEU attempts and they seem to have re-imagined both characters in a modern, fun way.

Good job DC!

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Aquaman was a hit long before the first US review came in, it's breaking records numbers in China at least.

Just one point in your poorly thought through OP. And not every franchise needs to be kiddy and about raccoon turds.

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To each their own.

I quite enjoyed Man of Steel and thought critics (and some fans) were not fair in their reviews. It was the most enjoyable Superman movie I've seen since the original from 1978. I think taking a different approach to this classic super hero was fine. It was in Batman V Superman where it all went off the rails. I blame that on poor story telling, shoddy producing and on WB not understanding these characters and their appeal to people.

I'm a Marvel guy. I make no secret of my preference but I don't hate DC. Spider-man was always my favorite but Batman was a close second. You can go back and look at other posts I've made on this topic. Not a DC hater here, just a CBM lover who expects better. Everyone's taste is different though, I get it. Just seems to me that bleak, dark, stormy and oppressive isn't the tone that they should have gone with for a movie featuring the two biggest bullets in the DC arsenal.

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fair enough!

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I would love to see a Superman and Shazam fight or have them team up against Black Adam and another arch enemy, like Brainiac or even an evil Superman from a parallel universe. That would rock!!!

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Just one point in your poorly thought through OP. And not every franchise needs to be kiddy and about raccoon turds.

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lol

this is quite funny considering reviews are calling Aquaman "The Best Marvel movie DCs ever made"

also quite funny considering WB hired they director of GOTG's(you know the same director who directed the movie withthe raccoon turds) to come in and reboot thier Suicide Squad franchise to make ummmmmm you know exactly like GOTG....

also quite funny considering WB/DC hired The exact director from The Avengers to come in and fix Justice League and try to cut every ounce of Snyder out of the film and make it exactly like The Avengers....

the point being, the time for DC fans to claim "ummm DC films are more adult" is over....

DC/WB is in full on COPY Marvel Studios mode....and they are COPYING Marvel Studios in such a unprecedented way its totally SHAMELESS

I mean WB is literally bringing in the exact director from Marvel Studios ....

whats worse is, They are bringing in The director THEY TRIED TO COPY....

Suicide Squad was only green lit after GOTG became a hit....WB wanted a GOTG type franchise....but couldnt do it themselves, completely shit the bed, then Literally Hired They director of GOTG to come in and do it for them....

Justice League only became a reality after The Avengers struck gold....WB tried to fast track a JL movie, it resulted in disaster, so WB literally hired The director of The Avengers to come in a try do it for them...

never in the history of Hollywood has their been such SHAMELESS COPYING...

Aquaman and Shazam look like exact copies of MCU films, The dark,depressing and colorless tones of Snyder's DCEU is gone, replaced with The MCU humor, and lighthearted tones...

you do not have to like The MCU films.....but at this point you can no longer claim DC films are more adult....

that was an option from 2008 until 2016....from that point, WB/DC was making CBM's with clearly different tones....The 2 Dark Knight films, MOS, BvS and SS were made with completely different tones than The MCU films...

you are more than with your right to claim you believe they are more adult or are better than The MCU films....



but starting immediately after with BvS, after Audiences and critics universally hated BvS, WB began interfering in every DCEU films post production in an attempt to lighten the tones and add HUMOR...

at this point there is no more claiming "MCU is Kiddie and DC is adult"

WB/DC has FULL ON copied Marvel Studios and Copied to A Shameless Level that they are literally hiring The exact directors they tried to copy to now come in a fix their COPIED franchises...

Aquaman is Succeeding righting because WB COPIED Marvel Studios tones...

The film started out tracking at a disastrously low 35 Million ....thats undeniable proof interest WAS DIED after Justice League......ONLY this final month during WBs Massive final marketing campaign has Tracking gone up because audiences are now seeing The film looks nothing like the awful DCEU films and looks exactly like an MCU film...

in conclusion

I get it, You are still deeply angry at the decade on Success of 20 Marvel Studios films and The complete and utter failure and DEATH of the DCEU after only 5 films ..

You'll always be looking for ways to claim "DC is better" because DC is and has been losing so horrifically to Marvel Studios...

but unfortunately, your just going to have to find a New way because claiming "DC is more adult" and "MCU is for Kiddies" is no longer and option now that WB/DC has FULL ON Copied Marvel Studios in the most Shameless of ways....

so in the future, now exactly a smart idea to claim "And not every franchise needs to be kiddy and about raccoon turds."

when WB/DC hired the director of The Raccoon turds movies to come in a FIX thier COPIED Franchise....

lol epic fail on your part...

if I were you I'd consider giving up trying to claim "DC is Better"....first its an impossible argument to make right now, giving the decade of unprecedented success of Marvel Studios and the half decade of nothing but failure from WB/DC...

and second, You just seem to be terrible at it....Just awful....

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"And not every franchise needs to be kiddy and about raccoon turds." Octopus playing drums says "Hi".

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rather: logical argument says goodby. I saw Aquaman, I do not remember that, but amongst all the stoned crazyness of the world building it's totally possible.

Still, the octupus playing drums would equal the ant playing drums in Antman2 (which is not so much kiddy but weird).

Anyway, these scenes will never reach the infantile lowpoints like the infamous penis, turds and nipples dialogue a la "hahahaha I have famously huge turds", " I have sensitive nipples", "I shoot the ball-sack of a chin right out of your face" or "lets play hide the zucchini" etc.



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Bad juvenile humor from GotG2 is not an excuse to generalize. Humor is always present in every Marvel movie, in some they kept it low while with others they went in my opinion too far. Let's give some time for DC to do the same, this is their first flick where they decided to go the same way as Marvel. You're going to extremes just because DC is now all colorful and funny.

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a definite improvement but kinda disappointing....I think everyone was hoping for something better.

The Average score Is not good....6.2

that means its just barely getting good reviews, It means even the good reviews are NOT like 8, 9 and 10s...

Its seems Aquaman isnt as great as some of us hoped, but still A Huge and massive improvement over the Snyder trainwrecks...

im fine with the 78% rating....its just that 6.2 Average rating....thats not good...

I just went though and did quick look, I only saw a maybe 4 ratings that gave it a 4 out of 5 or an 8/10....

damn near every fresh rating is 7/10, 3/5, B, or 6.5/10.....

it seems even the majority that like the movie just consider it decent....which again Is a massive improvement, but you cant helpt but be somewhat disappointed

curious to see what this does for WOM...

no doubt the decent/good RT rating will certainty help box office for opening weekend....but I wonder what happens now after Opening weekend, I wonder if Audiences will feel the same about Aquaman and like but not LOVE it like critics...

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Well even if it stays in the upper 70's or low 80's percentile range on RT, it's still a great improvement from the DCEU and currently on par with movies like Ant-Man, The Incredible Hulk, both Thor movies, Iron Man 2 and Captain America: First Avenger.

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ya but thats kinda the point....

Thor 2 is the worst reviewed MCU film and Its got a 6.2 average score....

Thor didnt didnt have good WOM and did NOT have GOOD legs...

I know at this point saying "Aquaman is on par with certain MCU films" is a Huge Improvement...

but the films you listed none really had Great WOM and Great Legs...

you listed what are universally considered the weakest MCU films(again certainly an improvement for DCEU films) but still IMO disappointing...

Thor 2 had Bad Legs....Audiences were in complete agreement with critics....They thought the movie was decent but there was no "Great WOM"

they is what we should be concerned about for Aquaman....


If They best we can say about Aquaman is "Its on par with The MCUs weakest films" I'm sorry thats just not what I was hoping for or excepting...

what I'm hoping for is that Average rating to go up with more reviews...

A 6.2 average rating clearly indicates the movie is DECENT at best......CBM's with A similar rating has not had Good WOM or GOOD Legs...

I hope with more reviews that average goes up to 6.8 or 7.0....that would indicate it has a chance at good WOM and Good Legs...

With an average rating that low, if it stays like that, Aquaman may get eaten alive my competition during the christmas season....

Bumblebee and Mary Poppins are getting great reviews and reactions, WOM is excellent...

during the Christmas season, you need GOOD WOM...

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I see your points but the improvement with Aquaman, over previous DCEU movies, is still a marked improvement. At least (from what I'm reading in the reviews) it's worth going to see. If it has legs then that would be an added bonus. Guess we will see.

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I see your points but the improvement with Aquaman, over previous DCEU movies, is still a marked improvement. At least (from what I'm reading in the reviews) it's worth going to see. If it has legs then that would be an added bonus. Guess we will see.

For sure...

look, MOS, BvS SS and JL....were trainwrecks...

Aquaman is such a massive improvement over them its hard to really put into words...

But for me thats more about just how awful those films were and then how GOOD Aquaman is...

I mean, would we really be praising Captain Marvel right now if it was getting Aquaman reviews?


whats worse....

Aquaman getting decent reviews, and that seeming like such a HUGE IMPROVEMENT due to the previous Awful DCEU films

or Captain Marvel getting the same decent reviews and seeming like a disappointment due to the previous Great MCU films...

its really the perfect indicator to show just how at opposite ends of the spectrum these franchises and fans are....


The facts are it seems like a HUGE WIN and Improvement that Aquaman is just a decent film because The previous DCEU films have been so bad

but If Captain Marvel received the same reviews, It would seem like a massive disappointment because of just how great The Previous MCU films have been...

If Captain Marvel received These type of reviews, It would be considered one of the weakest MCU film and A MISFIRE....yet Aquaman is literally being praised as A HUGE IMPROVEMENT and one of the best DCEU films...


the point is, I think this is more about just how bad The DCEU films were than how good Aquaman is...

but no doubt HUGE Improvement

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If Marvel released Aquaman instead of DC I'm sure they would be criticized more and the ratings would be lower. DC reached rock bottom with JL and now anything is an improvement. It was a safe bet Aquaman will get a sizeable push in China just because of Wan, WB probably had this in mind when they decided to release it in China 2 weeks ahead of US opening.

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And if Aquman continues to get good reviews and get good WOM and does amazing at the box office it will literally be because it genuinely a good movie that literally speaks for itself and doesn't have to rely on the women's movement or black movement of course having a fantastic director like James Wan certainly doesn't hurt... this is the start of a great future for DC fans which I know just tears you up inside, LOL!

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And if Aquman continues to get good reviews and get good WOM and does amazing at the box office it will literally be because it genuinely a good movie that literally speaks for itself and doesn't have to rely on the women's movement or black movement of course having a fantastic director like James Wan certainly doesn't hurt... this is the start of a great future for DC fans which I know just tears you up inside, LOL!

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please do research before embarrassing yourself...

had you done any research you would have seen I've been predicting exact what you just said for a year NoW

I've made countless threads and argued with Queen dozens of times saying, I believe Aquaman will success and Succeed SOLELY because of James Wan who is a fantastic dirdctor.

I've told queen dozens of times, I believe Aquaman is going to succeed and its going to succeed entirely because its going to be a GOOD MOVIE...

Queen tried to claim Aquaman and The DCEU was going to be red hot coming off JL....

I've said a million times, IF Aquaman does succeed in will Succeed IN SPITE OF The DCEU and ONLY because of the quality of the film...

I have predicted a dozen times, Aquaman will be a HUGE hit, get good reviews and have great box office, and then specifically noted It WILL BE 100% because of James Wan and Him having an Iron clad "Creative control" contract that will stop WB from sabotaging thier own movie once again

you word for word said everything I've been saying for months and then embarrassingly added "and that just tears you up"

lol no you gigantic idiot it makes me Happy....

It proves every single thing I've ever said right....but most importantly it makes me happy because Im a DC fan and just want good movies...

The 5 years reign of absolute and utter failure is over....The Snyder muderverse is dead....The DCEU is dead....

The future is bright for DC films....key words bring "DC films" and not "DCEU films"...

please just do some research next time...I literally made a thread 5 days ago saying the exact same thing

there are at least 100 relies of me and queen going back and forth where I'm word for word predicting Aquaman to succeed because of James Wan and Because I believe the film will ultimately be a Good film.

had you took the time to do even 2 mins of research you could have avoided what is now just An EPIC, almost beyond imagination FAIL of saying "which I know just tears you up inside, LOL!"

just so you truly understand the depths of your failures here, here some of my PREVIOUS comments and posts that were there for you to see but you embarrassingly did no research---

https://moviechat.org/tt1477834/Aquaman/5c09a951b42ed207cd927605/Aquaman-set-to-Debut-in-China-tonight

^^^lol word for word, 6 days ago me saying exactly what You claimed "would tear me up"

https://moviechat.org/tt1477834/Aquaman/5bd5d898efa7ad38fee157ac/Tracking-for-40-to-60-Million-OW

^ 1 month ago, me predicting exactly how Aquaman has ultimately performed---------"But most importantly I believe Aquaman is gonna be a hit because of The director James Wan....He has full creative control, WB cant sabotage This movie like they did with BvS.SS and JL....I believe Wan has made a Good movie and The Movie and Quality of The movie is going to be the reason for RED HOT hype and it succeeding..."

https://moviechat.org/tt1477834/Aquaman/5bbe37a52eb9180013c06502/Brace-for-impact?reply=5bbe7abc893557001341f4b2

^ read this reply from 2 months ago...

lol now go sit on SHAME and regret for your epic failure of trying to say "this is the start of a great future for DC fans which I know just tears you up inside"


The success of DC cant "tear up" a DC fan you gigantic moron

again do research, if you had you would have seen, I'm not a DC hater....I'm A Snyder/his 3 DCEU films were so awful They make me angry hater

The Dark Knight is tied with Logan and The Avengers for my favorite cbm of all time...I have 4 DC films in my top 10 best cbms of all time

I love both

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DC and Marvel...

The difference is...Marvel Studios has made 17 out of 20 films in the last Decade that I LOVE....

While DC has made 4 out of 5 AWFUL films with 3 being literally 3 of the worst CBMs ever made...

believe if, if DCEU were making DCEU films consistently like the quality of Wonder Woman....you would think I'm a Marvel Hater because I'd be praising DC so much...

the facts are, DC/WB made IMO about the 2 worst possible movies with 2 of movies most anticipated movies of all time..

BvS and Justice League were once in a lifetime films....you can only make those movies once, there can only be 1 "The first cinematic meeting of Batman and Superman".....there can only be 1 "The first team up of DC biggest heroes"

and simply put, I do not believe WB could have made worst version of these movies if they intentionally tried

WB let Snyder screw up 2 once in a lifetime films LITERALLY as badly as you can possible be...

Theres a lot of different ways BvS could have turned out, different directors with different vision....WE GOT The WORST POSSIBLE Movies, The worst possible out cume....no director or studios could have made a worse movies than BvS and JL

I dont even consider JL a movie, It literally has no parts that make a movie and a movie...no vision, no goal, no purpose, no message...Its literally just a bunch of scenes made by 2 different directors edited together to make a 2 hour run time

as a DC fan they KILLS me, I can not believe WB and Snyder screwed up 2 movies this important and this big...

so I'm sorry, if you did any research, you would have seen , I'm not a DC hater

I'm a DC fan, who went past heartbroken to ANGRY at a 5 years reign of failure and literally some of the worst movies ever made.

that "Torn me up"...

seeing Aquaman look nothing like Snyder's dark,depressing and colorless shitshows makes me beyond happy...Knowing Aquaman is directed by a Genius like James Wan has brought nothing but CONFIDENCE since the moment he was hired...

seeing Aquaman get decent reviews and good audience scores Makes me so happy....

knowing all future DC films are being made with NOTHING to do with Snyder is everything I want....

the future is Bright for DC films....unfortunately though that Bright future is a direct result of the darkest and most horrifically awful 5 year reign of failure in Hollywood History...


PS....

completely agree with you about WW and BB....

I feel both films were good, but drastically over performed due to their cultural impacts and Movements that got behind them...


but I may disagree about Aquaman and this statement- "because"it genuinely a good movie that literally speaks for itself and doesn't have to rely on the women's movement or black movement"

based on the reviews I'm reading it seems Aquaman is getting more credit for NOT be AWFUL than it is for being good...

Most reviews seemed to giving the movie credit for not being like the other DCEU films than crediting for being truly great.

also there seemed to be some riding on the coatails of The MCU going on here as some reviews are calling it "The Best Marvel Movie DCs ever made" and nearly every review is noting it has a tone much closer to MCU films than previous DCEU films....

no doubt the movie is a huge Improvement and is considered decent...but there certainly seems to be some things that discredits your "It speaks for itself" claim

reviews seem to be giving the movie a ton of credit for not being awful and like the previous DCEU films more than praising it FOR the MOVIE ITSELF being great and the movie seems to getting credit for being much more like MCU films ...

I want more reviews to come in before a definitive disagree with you...but right now....I think its clear Aquaman is NOT "Speaking for Itself".....Its getting way more credit more not being a Snyder type DCEU films and Copying The MCU than Praise for actually being great...

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LOL! You're literally contradicting your claim, you say you don't hate DC and are pleased with the new direction DC movies are going yet when a fan shows optimism and says that now DC has a chance to rival Marvel you have to bring in a negative aspect to the conversation and simply say it's literally impossible, well if you literally knew anything about how the world works you should know that literally nothing is impossible... for all we know there could very well be another Zack Snyder out there and Disney could make a costly gamble an hire that director.
So if you're not going to contribute anything positive to this message board then kindly fuck off and spread your poison on a Marvel movie message board, we all know that your biased towards DC anyway.

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Because frankly, saying DC has a chance to rival Marvel is somewhat silly.

Marvel has over a dozen movies out and their worst one is on a par with the best DC has put out so far (Wonder Woman). WB and DC got to the game WAY too late and spent so much time trying to not copy Marvel that they forgot to make good movies. Compound that with the simple fact that they bound themselves to a director and his "vision" that was counter-intuitive to building a universe and now you have a universe that was late to the game and starting out on the wrong foot.

REAL DC fans ARE pissed at all this. We WANT to see Superman being the heroic ideal, the JLA being awe-inspiring, the Flash doing the fantastic. Instead we got....this.

So yes, we WANT Aquaman to succeed. But we heard the zealots saying Wonder Woman was the turning point.....until JL showed it was an aberration. So hush up and realize real fans can hope for the best and expect the worst because that's what WB has given us.

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If Aquaman of all things is a success that the DCEU desperately needs (and please let it be), every REAL DC fan should just admit Snyder was the problem. Wonder Woman was great....no Snyder. Everything Snyder has a direct hand in (aside from producing) has been the stink on this pig. And if....Aquaman is a true hit (and more importantly, a decent movie), everyone involved in the MoS/BvS/Suicide Squad/Justice League debacles should just be fired.

When your universe depends on Aquaman, things are dire.

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See, I disagree with you ONLY on that last statement. Aquaman is a golden age comics character. In some respects, he's not overly interesting but the key is to tell his story and make him interesting.

How many of you would have ever thought that Ant-Man would be a big hit? I thought he'd be okay but even I was delightfully surprised at the way they introduced him and told his story.

That's the key - GOOD STORY TELLING.

If you have a good story, everything else can fall into place. That's what Snyder's big problem was, he was all visuals with virtually zero story or haphazard story telling at best.

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Well said, I couldn't stand Snyder's DCEU, so dull and tedious.

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If Aquaman of all things is a success that the DCEU desperately needs (and please let it be), every REAL DC fan should just admit Snyder was the problem. Wonder Woman was great....no Snyder. Everything Snyder has a direct hand in (aside from producing) has been the stink on this pig. And if....Aquaman is a true hit (and more importantly, a decent movie), everyone involved in the MoS/BvS/Suicide Squad/Justice League debacles should just be fired.

When your universe depends on Aquaman, things are dire.

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that already is the consensus....

theres only a tiny small minority of Snyder obsessed fans that think other wise...

hilariously this Snyder Cult is actually angry at the success of Wonder Wonder ...It bothers them when everyone says "Wonder Woman is The most successful and ONLY successful DCEU film"

It kills them that Patty Jenkinks gets the credit for WW success....They claim Snyder is the reason WW is a success.


but at this point, theres nothing that will convince them snyder was A destroyer and not a savior...

I mean what else could happen?

Snyder goes from The Boss of the DCEU to being immediately DEMOTED after BvS

He then has An entire Justice League film taken away by WB, JL was announced ,greenlit and had release dates to be a 2 parter, but coincidentally became just 1 film right after Shit the bed with BvS. Its clear WB forced snyder to make JL into 1 film because they no longer had faith in him

There are confirmed reports, that WB wanted and tried to fire Snyder after BvS, but realized they couldnt because JL was too far into pre production and it would cost them over 100 M

This resulted in WB having a "come to Jesus" talk with Snyder before starting JL where Snyder promised to make tone changes and fix the things people hated about BvS.

hilariously WB then sent Johns to shadow Snyder and oversee the entire production on JL, literally looking over his shoulder at all times with Snyder answering to JOhns...

Snyder then delivers a first cut of Justice League that is so horrifically awful WB deems it "Unwatchable"...Snyder once again made the exact same movie, dark, depressing and colorless, no joy, all Action sequences take place at night, Superman is Evil, Cyborgs ark is doom and gloom...

WB then makes the decision Snyder has to go, and Literally fires him....

Snyder has spent the last year posting short and cryptic messages about what his JL movies WOULD HAVE BEEN...

lol never in Hollywood history has 1 Man failed so horrifically and suffered such DEMOTION and PUBLIC Failure ....

went from boss, to demoted, to fired, to "tales of what if"

made 3 universally hated films and LOST Another due to Shitting the bed so bad WB literally took a complete JL film away from him.

seriously there truly is no way a man can fail any worse than Snyder did, there no way the failure could be anymore PUBLIC and KNOWN that snyders failure.....and yet Snyder's cult still defends him ....

the point being....The consensus is set in stone Snyder is and was the problem....

But theres a tiny 5% cult that it seems literally no matter what happens, no matter the depths of Snyder's failures...they Will truly NEVER accept Snyder was A destroyer and not a savior...

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Snyder was DEFINITELY the biggest problem in the DCEU. Plus whatever producers rushed Suicide Squad and then had it re-cut by the company that made the trailer

Snyder is just not a very good director. He does much better with R rated material, but he got greedy and tried to be a Michael Bay/James Cameron type of guy. And Christopher Nolan, who is otherwise a cinema saint in my eyes, deserves some blame for recruiting Snyder

People love to talk about how good Snyder's movies look, but that's not enough to be a movie director in charge of such massive projects.

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Snyder was DEFINITELY the biggest problem in the DCEU. Plus whatever producers rushed Suicide Squad and then had it re-cut by the company that made the trailer

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actually that was Snyders fault as well...

Suicide Squad was done and completely when BvS came out....

but When audiences and critics universally hated and rejected BvS and Its Snyder tone....

WB went into panic mode and tried to change and lighten the tone of SS in post Production as a direct result of The backlash from BvS....

This lead WB to bring the outside editing company that put together the first SS trailer which had a lot of humor to make a completely new cut of the film

bottom line....Ayers had the film complete...had the version he made....but after Snyder shit the bed with BVS....WB panicked and Thought they need to try and had HUMOR and lighten the tone of SS...

Snyder is directly responsible or SS's post production interference.....The Backlash was awful toward BvS....WB panicked...

https://www.outerplaces.com/science-fiction/item/12927-report-warner-bros-interfered-with-suicide-squad-until-it-was-unrecognizable

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It's cool to hear from both positive and negative reviews that the movie does not hold anything back and just goes all the way. It looks like one of the strangest superhero movies in years. I'm in.

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Dear Lord....

Aquaman Metacritic score is 53....

combine that with RTs average Rating on 6.2.

This is like one of the worst reviewed slightly "fresh" movies ever..


this doesnt at all look good for WOM....

Aquaman is damn near in Justice League territory....Justice League had a 45 Meta score and 5.3 Average RT Rating

Aquaman isnt even close to Wonder Woman territory....WW had a 76 Meta score and 7.6 Average RT score


theres no getting around this....Aquaman's Good reviews are like Luke Warm at best...

basically the overwhelming Majority of positive reviews are 6 or 6.5 ....or like C+ or B-'s....

I was going to make the comparison between Thor The Dark World and Aquaman, But Aquaman's Meta score is a lot lower than Thor 2's...

I was going to point out Thor 2, because its universally regarded as The MCUs weakest film...It got decent reviews, But Thor 2's RT score was 6.2....which like Aquaman suggested Critics were LUKEWARM on the film.

but the main reason why I wanted to compare Thor 2 to Aquaman is....Thor 2 ended up having awful legs and at best Average WOM....basically audiences agreed with critics, they thought it was decent but nothing great.

I was going to say Aquaman seems to be heading for Thor 2 Territory.....but now I'm not sure I can make that comparison as Aquamans Metascore is A LOT WORSE than Thor 2

Aquaman isnt even on par with Thor 2

This does NOT LOOK good for box office after Opening Weekend for Aquaman

looking at the data, there just no way around the fact, Even the people that like the movie, at best are rating it as average

IMO theres only 1 hope....Theres still about 3/4 of reviews left to come in...Maybe MAYBE...more reviews will come in and The Ratings will go up....hopefully for whatever reason this is just a weird, odd, small sample size of reviews that for some reason are showing An extremely low rating....although, with BOTH Meta and RT showing the same Low average ratings, I find that pretty unlikely, but we can hope

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ArArArchStanton? Is that you?

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You are ArArArchStanton aren't you? The constant references to Thor 2 tipped me off. You know, there's more reviews being added and it's remaining a solid 76% regardless of your panic about its metacritic score. The movie is good. Let the DC fans enjoy themselves. They got a good Aquaman out of this debacle of a franchise.

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check my history...

I've been on IMDB for 7 years under the exact same name and then switched here when it shut down....

you can check my history Ive never once mentioned Thor 2 until this thread and the only reason I mentioned Thor 2 was because in another thread someone kept saying Aquaman was on par with MCU films like Thor 2...

I then checked Thor 2s rating and found at least The RT score was similar....

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This is looking like it will be another Man of Steel. Where it is not considered the worst thing ever but definitely loaded full of issues.

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Perhaps this will be financial success, but not critically acclaimed. 53 on MC, 74% on RT (which by itself is not that bad but still not critically acclaimed) with average rating of only 6.2 and rotten by top critics at the moment. I suppose if Aquaman was observed outside of the DCEU the ratings would be much worse.

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You kidding? If this had the Marvel logo, they'd award it Best Picture asap.

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BP wasn't that great, okay movie but nothing extraordinary. Back to AM though, DC is moving away from their dark, depressive serious style, that gives AM novelty factor which isn't that easy to accomplish with so many superhero movies produced on yearly basis. Did they manage to follow Marvel's formula it's hard to say, haven't seen the movie yet but judging by what the critics are saying it's an entertaining movie but doesn't have much substance. Personally not a fan of Momoa and his bro-dude shtick.

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Just saw it. I'm a DC fan but words cannot express my contempt for Zach Snyder and what he has done to this universe.

I hope others enjoyed it. I thought it was an absolute disaster. I thought it made Catwoman look like The Dark Knight.

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You didn't like it? Hmmm.... thus far I've heard mixed views, although most have been positive.

And I agree completely about Snyder. He had zero reverence for the DC source material. He just made movies that he wanted to make, fans be damned!

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I would have been fine with him making the movies he wanted if he were a good storyteller or director. The stories suck. The special effects suck, the one thing that should be a slam dunk. The characters suck. Heroes and villains. It's an all around trainwreck.

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I've been all in favor of rebooting everything since Batman V Superman. There was absolutely no good reason that movie could not have been the greatest comic book movie of all time. And I blame Snyder 50% for what it ended up being, along with 50% on WB's shoulders since they greenlit that garbage.

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I agree. It had all the ingredients to be a great movie. I really believe that if it were left in competent hands like Nolan or Whedon it could have been as good or better than any of the Marvel movies. Why anyone would let Snyder's fingerprints on the entire universe after seeing what he made before this is beyond me

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And to think, some hard-core DCEU stans think MOS, bvs and even squad are masterpieces, deluded freaks

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People are going to like what they like, I get that much. What I can't fathom is covering for disappointment by digging in and staunchly defending a hack like Snyder who was totally indifferent to the heritage and motivations of these characters.

BVS is the worst movie I've ever seen. Period. It's a train wreck into a volcano during a eclipse.
Suicide Squad was all over the place and had a terrible plot.
Of the three you mentioned, I liked MOS but it had some issues. I don't think it deserves the hate like the previous two movies.

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I agree with most of what you wrote.

I prefer DC characters to Marvel but not to the point where I would dislike Marvel because of it.

Not one of these DC movies has been better than the Marvel movies. Not one.

BVS was better than Justice League and Suicide Squad IMHO.

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I thought Wonder Woman was good. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It wasn't a movie trying to be something more than what it was. They should have done ALL the single story movies first before jumping into team up movie. Also, nothing against Cyborg but let's have a Martian Manhunter movie and then make him a part of the JLA. He's very cool!

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