If they can only be killed in numerical order..... - I Am Number Four (2011) Discussion

[–] Ron2011 13 years ago

Six had seen videos of Four on the internet doing some superhuman things, and knew the Mogs would see it too and would be going after him. So she went to help out. If Four was killed, then that's one step closer to her, Six. Plus it weakens them all since the more they have the better they can stand against the Mogs. Mogs wanted to kill them before the Numbers came into their full powers, as they got into their late teens.

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[–] Adorably-Obnoxious 13 years ago

Yes, but his point was that surely SHE can't die before HE can...so why would they even try to kill her at all?

I'm guessing the plan might be for all of them to join together, put Number Four in a safe place, and Five through Nine just slaughter the Mogs as they come because after all, they can't die unless Number Four does, right?

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[–] IrishDragon89 13 years ago

No She can't die unless 4 and 5 were killed. However that only happens if they remainned apart. Once they got together they ruined the protective charm that was placed on them. Basically now anyone can be killed in any order. So Adorably your plan as good as it would seem can't work.
If you read the second book, you find out (SPOILERS) she, being six, was taken hostage and was tortured I suppose. The Mogs don't know who is what number so I suppose they look for all of them in the hopes of being able to kill the ones in the right order. It's been awhile since I read it but that's what I remember from it :)

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[–] Ron2011 13 years ago

No She can't die unless 4 and 5 were killed. However that only happens if they remainned apart. Once they got together they ruined the protective charm that was placed on them. Basically now anyone can be killed in any order.

This is right, as I remember from the books. Even though Six was trying to help protect Four, getting together made them vulnerable as it negated the protective charms put on them having to be killed in order. I think Six's motivation was that she knew the Mogs were making some progress in finding more of the Numbers and figured being together to fight them was becoming a better option. They were coming into their full powers, or would soon, and at that point they'd want to be together to fight the Mogs anyways. I think that's pretty accurate; correct me if I'm wrong.

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[–] chiibug 13 years ago

Wow, seems like the books would be an interesting read and a much better thing to set time for than this movie.

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[–] mercyme19892003 12 years ago

Sorry for the thread necromancy, but I just wanted to tell you, I just finished the third book and you are not wrong.

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[–] dubbzo 13 years ago

well, even if she can't be killed, there is other things they could do..

capture her, torture her, kill anyone and everyone she ever cares about.

they could have captured her and held her prisoner until they caught the others, or if it is true that putting them together made them vulnerable then catch one and bring them to another one and kill them both.

i don't actually remember anything in the movie about NEEDING to kill them in order, i just figured it was the order they had on their list so they just basically went in order for convenience, but if they had a shot at one of the others they would do it. if the books say otherwise or i missed something in the movie then that's different, but either way as i said even if they can't die they could be captured, etc..

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[–] thefro-177-469814 12 years ago

They did capture her, and attempted to torture her however anything they tried on her resulted in the torturer being harmed due to the charms that stop them from being killed. Once she developed her invisibility legacy she escaped.
Also because they were meant to keep moving and not make any friends and her Cepan was already dead so there was no one else that she did care about.
They might not have mentioned the charm meaning they can only be killed in order in the movie so I'll re-watch it. But it was definitely in the book, which is a great read with the 3rd installment out at the end of this month.

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[–] gregclynn 12 years ago

Six can die before 1,2,3,4 or 5 if they meet up first. The "charm" on them deactivates if they come in contact with each. Which is why they all went there different ways to being with.

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[–] causewayking 12 years ago

My question is are only 4 and 6 broken from the charm or is everyone free game now.

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[–] zandylovesRISK 12 years ago

i don't actually remember anything in the movie about NEEDING to kill them in order, i just figured it was the order they had on their list so they just basically went in order for convenience, but if they had a shot at one of the others they would do it. if the books say otherwise or i missed something in the movie then that's different, but either way as i said even if they can't die they could be captured, etc..

I was just watching the movie and on the car ride to Paradise, John says he is Four and he is next after Three died.

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[–] jetlag31 13 years ago

Um, where does the movie claim that "If they can only be killed in numerical order"? The narration merely says that that is the order the Moga are doing it in.

Much like any other serial killers, simply because they are following some pattern does not necessarily mean they can't break out of that pattern should the opportunity to do so arise.

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[–] zandylovesRISK 12 years ago

I was just watching the movie and on the car ride to Paradise, John says he is Four and he is next after Three died.

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[–] superbeej2 12 years ago

When 2 or more of the numbers come together, the charm placed on them when they left Lorien that says that they can only be killed in numerical order, is broken. It would go back into effect if they split, but 6 and Henri agreed (in the book) that the time for hiding is over. So, in short, she could have been killed and nearly was in the book. In fact, the whole battle was a lot different in the book, which made me like the movie less.

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[–] cybermagekenny 12 years ago

the only thing i hate that wasnt put into the movie from the book was the actual lorien part of the story it never really explained anything in the movie from that aspect and because of that its so easy to compare to similar movies about teens with super powers as one just came out a few months ago. but i am number four followed alot better to its book then what other movies have such as Eragon or even abraham lincoln vampire hunter so either way you got to give the movie some credit

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[–] lu-neagu 12 years ago

I read the books and no Six was in danger. All of them ware. The spell that they could only be killed in numerical order WAS BROKEN when they met, that was the condition [they can be killed only in numerical order if they don't meet]. I haven't actually seen the movie, maybe they didn't follow the plot in the book, but that's the way it should have been.

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