I know we're in a silly culture war and all, but so many take it serious. Do you think a big chunk of Indy's audience this go around will be women who are really into seeing women turn into the hero?
shareUh, no.
If anyone can break the stereotype that it's mostly men who are the audience for action and adventure, it might be Phoebe Waller-Bridge.
This movie could surprise some people, as the female audience fills up seats left empty by all of the misogynists who are staying away
"If anyone can break the stereotype that it's mostly men who are the audience for action and adventure, it might be Phoebe Waller-Bridge."
Yes, GO plucky privately-educated upper-class cishet white woman (grand-daughter of a baronet, and related to a Tory MP). POWER TO THE PEOPLE! ✊🏼
Yes, GO plucky privately-educated upper-class cishet white woman (grand-daughter of a baronet, and related to a Tory MP). POWER TO THE PEOPLE! ✊🏼
I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, but I do think future generations will look back at this era with some sense of bemusement.
At the moment, there's a desire to 'correct the patriarchy' (although, as you've noted, it seems to be favouring rich, white and classically attractive women, rather than less advantaged women and/or minorities), but I think future generations may feel that the pendulum swung too far, and that in the process of correcting the patriarchy *other* *more* oppressed people (such as WOC, working-class women, and even Black/minority men) were overlooked.
What ever you pay for your copium, it's a great deal... it seems to work very well.
shareNo, women don't do that. They want men to take them to the movie and pay...which means they will see what the man wants to see lol.
shareLike fuck they will.
Reminds me of feminists bitching that female athletes (football, basketball etc, etc) get paid less than men and recieve less coverage and viewership. The funny thing is most of the people bitching have no interest in it other than moral support as a feminist cause, that is something for them to point to as examples of sexism. They don't watch sports themselves but demand that male sports fans watch it to support the ladies or else they're sexist. This is actually what some of them are like, I kid you not.
Women be sitting there complaining about sexism when stuff they claim to like struggle but they don't really financially support these causes themselves, nor do they invest any of their free time into it. They try gaslight men into doing it.
Did you know that even for female super hero movies like Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman that it was around a 50-50 split of male-female cinema attendees? Typical super hero movies are in the 65-35 male-female split range. A lot of content marketed for women actually recieves just as much male attention. Save for content marketed to little girls and hard female content like romantic comedies.
The biggest consumers of media (games, sports, movies, the likes...) are young adult males. Always has been... probably always will be. It's the most prized demographic for media consumption.
I've got ZERO issue with more female content. On the contrary, I think female action heroes are generally more interesting and compelling than male ones, for the most part.
But I do have an issue with the likes of Kathleen Kennedy and others hijacking IPs in order to force their own agenda on it (for example, when they killed off John Connor in the last Terminator film, simply so they could make a woman the de facto hero). It's so egregious and blatant, and displays a degree of resentment and insecurity on the part of some women ("How dare creative men have successful franchises!" Well, why the fuck don't you make your OWN?!)
Like you, I'm also bemused by the default criticism of cishet men for choosing not to see certain movies, whether the leads are female or gay (like that recent 'comedy' Bros), as if it's their intrinsic responsibility to prop up an unappealing movie, rather than other demographics, including those specifically aimed at via those aforementioned films.
I do however see that POC, particularly Black people, DON'T have this issue. In my experience, Black audiences are now the most reliable in showing up to movies (white people seem to increasingly be staying at home and streaming Netflix etc), and although they've hitherto been overlooked by most filmmakers, I think we're going to see more Black Panthers, Spider-Man: Into the SpiderVerses, and Fast and the Furious movies, because those racially diverse IPs are actually making money (admittedly through both Black *and* whtie audiences, but, as I say, the former are particularly reliable).
But if white women want films focused on white women to succeed, guess what? They also need to start showing up to these films themselves, rather than simply relying on men.
I've got ZERO issue with more female content. On the contrary, I think female action heroes are generally more interesting and compelling than male ones, for the most part.
Actually, you can thank Nintendo for marketing videogames solely to boys.
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Yes, the balance is returning. I'm sure you've seen all the old Atari / Colecovision / Intellivision ads from the 1970s and pre-videogame crash period advertising gaming to FAMILIES above all else? Well, Nintendo changed all that, for some damned reason I can't remember. They only had the resources to focus on one gender of children, so picked boys, it really was quite tragic.
I'll see if I can find the original video I saw about it.
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I don't think it was this video, but I'm getting strong deja vu from it, it says what the other video said, and this guy usually tells the absolute unvarnished truth, even if his videos aren't popular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08CVkBxvBM
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What bothers me most of all is that this so-called "Videogame Crash" happened ONLY in North America, and probably ONLY the USA! Well, guess what? Videogaming continued on unabated in the UK in 1983, and most likely European territories, too!
British gamers had a massive choice of systems, both American and home-grown, and while most of the latter would die out sooner or later, and our gaming industry was home-grown as well and not major players whatsoever, we still led the way in the early years of the industry and many major UK games companies would go on to lead the world in gaming: one example being DMA Design, who later became Rockstar Games and gave the world Grand Theft Auto!
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Yeh, Europe and specifically the UK produced their own computers and games. 8bit- ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64, Amstrad. 16bit competing with the MegaDrive was the Commodore Amiga, and Atari ST
shareThe Ms Pacman anecdote is complete nonsense! As per the comments of the video -
Ms. Pacman wasn't made because of the original games popularity among females, it was made because two teenagers made their own pacman game as a rom and to avoid all the legal stuff, Bandai struck a deal with them to just officially release the game as Ms. Pacman
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Doing the Ms Pacman reskin and marketing may have been in part a response to women players but the game Crazy Otto wasn't made by them. It's a fudging of the truth really. The truth is girls just weren't as interested in video games as boys were.
shareI'm sure you've seen all the old Atari / Colecovision / Intellivision ads from the 1970s and pre-videogame crash period advertising gaming to FAMILIES above all else? Well, Nintendo changed all that, for some damned reason I can't remember.
Did women flock to the Star Wars sequels? Star Trek Discovery? Too bad Imdb removed the M/F rating categories!
Actually, women prefer fantasy to action and sci-fi. The Once Upon a Time board was mostly women.
Women didn't care about the female led Ghostbusters and they won't care about this movie either.
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