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Wow--- much hate here... Why?


This is a beautiful, exciting ride - with tense and good actors.
The CGI is amazing - camera, sound, music everything - and the combination
of actors and animation was flawless. No sense of greenscreen - like in so
many big Hollywood films.

Best 3D in a movie. Of course there is little story - but why can´t people
just enjoy and get on the ride. I wasn´t supposed to be Shakespeare.

Watch the specials on the bluray and get a sense of how much work and effort
went into this film - how much love for detail.

Most fun and exciting movie of 2013.

Why can´t people just enjoy and relax ;)

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Since this is a movie with a very scientific setting but with a lot of spiritual overtones (photo of st. christopher, buddha figure, matt appearing as a ghost, Ryan asking him to send love to her daughter, wonders if anyone does pray for her after she dies, etc..) it probably receives a lot of hate from high-nosed, atheistic science freaks who wanted this to be a very scientific movie without spiritual overtones. So they are disgusted and bash the movie. I think it was a great movie and I didn't have much of an expectation.

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I don't know but one thing's for sure: It was a cinematographic special effects masterpiece! And to find out how it was done simply google the title and search, and note that it took over 4 years for all the CGI. I only watched about 10 minutes and bailed the first time, too much of those 2 just bouncing around in outer space, I have Vertigo anyhoozle so I'm not too interested in watching things, even real space walks, just gets me antsy. Finally watched the entire thing, while reading how it was accomplished, it's just brilliant.

By the way, Bullock is worth something like $200 million, and I don't care for her just because of that, but she was pretty good in this movie. Plus she was married to that idiot tattooed Jesse James, huh?

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I enjoyed it, but I suppose people who like more thought-driven stories may have disliked it, as there was a lot of visuals-based action.

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As someone who reviewed the film as a 5/10, I actually have plenty to agree with you. The visuals were fantastic, immersive and they simply took my breath away. The music added to this and I loved the opening sequence, how everything slowly built up to disaster. The set pieces were very impressive and exhilirating. I enjoyed the visuals immensely with this film. I did not hate this film at all as a result. It was very well made, and I do have to say that Cuaron directed this film very well and has some of his trade mark styles, like the long take, used to prefection.

However, I do not count it as a good film. I emphasise the film here because a film is generally seen as a conglomeration of visuals, sound, music, story, and character. Visuals, sound and music are excelled. This would be a fine film if the story and characters at least had some depth to add interest to the film. However, neither were on par. The story was far too simple and just revolved around Bullock experiencing a problem and trying to find a solution, with the inevitable finale of her survival and landing on Earth. The depth to her character felt threadbare; she spends almost the entirety of the opening sequence gasping and letting out cries of distress.

Clooney, however, played the role of the cliched hero of calm intellect and initiative, spending the first act of the film telling Bullock what to do and getting her to safety, before his painfully predictable death. Both Bullock and he were very one dimensional. This would be fine in a film with many characters for me, but when I am spending an hour and a half with a character whose depth is confined to s straight line, I have difficulty getting invested in the film and end up feeling more frustrated with the character than enjoying the visuals.

It may have been my attitude to watching the film that was at fault here. I was with the family, we wanted a film to watch and noticed Gravity was on Amazon Prime so decided to give it a shot. We all lost interest in it and agreed not to finish it with 40 minutes to go. To me that doesn't suggest this is a good film; I rarely end a film before its climax and I'm not often bored by them either. Gravity did both to me so I simply do not think it is as good as everyone claims.

It is beautiful and superbly directed, but I dislike it because I wanted to watch a film, and Gravity is not a film. Gravity is a visual display.

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I emphasise the film here because a film is generally seen as a conglomeration of visuals, sound, music, story, and character. Visuals, sound and music are excelled. This would be a fine film if the story and characters at least had some depth to add interest to the film. However, neither were on par. The story was far too simple and just revolved around Bullock experiencing a problem and trying to find a solution, with the inevitable finale of her survival and landing on Earth. The depth to her character felt threadbare; she spends almost the entirety of the opening sequence gasping and letting out cries of distress.

See, normally I would agree, but not every movie needs the same amount of "depth" to succeed. This movie to me is as close to an actual, physical thrill ride as I've ever experienced, especially in IMAX.

You may see this as damning with faint praise, but I don't. Each movie is trying to do something different. How well it does what it's trying to do is the measure of its success. My favorite movie of all-time is Network. How does the script of Gravity compare to that of Network? Don't make me laugh . . but then, having Ryan Stone pause to wax ostentatiously verbose during lengthy monologues would've been a terrible choice. It just wasn't the time or place, any more than explosions and flying debris would've been appropriate in Network.

Most complaints I've read about Gravity are along the lines of "lacks depth/character development/plot." The last thing this movie needed was more plot. Its best virtue is its compact, right-to-the-point nature, and giving us more of the things it's supposedly lacking . . which are usually advisable or necessary . . would just slow things down. I didn't want or need to see these characters' pre-mission lives or families. I didn't need info on how ground control was dealing with the Russians during this whole disaster. In another film, maybe that would be the answer. Who knows; if anyone ever decides to film the events surrounding the Apollo 13 mission, maybe we'll get all of that and it'll work beautifully.

So, we disagree fundamentally about this film. I've been puzzled and annoyed by the cascade of shrill "Gravity suuuuuuucks!" yelps from so many people since its release, and your objections are clearly not in that category. Yet, you're saying essentially the same thing. And, I just don't get the "bored" thing. The movie's only 90 minutes long, and it doesn't dawdle.

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I have meddled with the primal forces of nature and I will atone.

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Firstly, thank you for taking the time of writing such a detailed reply to my reply. Just a few points on my verdict I want to clarify, although I understand that you have your own opinion so I'm not trying to change yours at all.

My experience of the film may have been relatively sub-par considering I was watching it at home, rather than experiencing the immersive thrills of IMAX or the Cinema. This is perhaps what may have impacted my own experience of the film. Nevertheless, I also went into this film from the expectations of critics and IMDb, which praise it to the high heavens. As such I was thinking I was in for a good time. The beginning impressed, and the immersion was there. However, I myself slowly began to lose interest, and eventually just stopped watching altogether because I had no emotional connection with the story or characters.

The one thing I certainly think of the film is that it is a groundbreaking film that pushes boundaries. It is an achievement of CGI and visual effects. That is doubtless, and aweinspiring to watch.

But in explaination of why so many people dislike this film, I think it is easy to see the in this circumstance. Plot and Character may not fit, as you suggest here, but that does not mean Gravity is any more a good film for what it is; it is effectively a graphical experiment more than a film in my opinion.

Again, my experience may well of been marred by not watching it in IMAX or in the Cinema, but basically when I watched it I was in the mood for a film; Gravity just wasn't enough the emotional rollarcoaster that Good Will Hunting is, and uses action exclusively to push the plot. All I'm saying is it just isn't my cuppa tea for that reason.

I'm not saying that the film lacks positives, however. It is spectacular and beautiful with its visuals, utilising simply themes of isolation expertly. Alfonso's direction is also superb, and magnificent to watch.

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exciting? sandra bullock floating around in space for two hours breathing heavily? not, my idea of exciting i have to say. watching paint dry would be more exciting.

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Why? Cos;

Immature people always have defined themselves by claiming to dislike popular culture, and there's much less 'risk'. Saying you really like something means laying your taste, intellect, and appreciation cards on the table. So while disliking everything popular, they'll claim their favorite film is Eraser Head or something foreign that you've never seen.

But the Millennial Disease makes it worse. It's not enough to not like something, they have to say...the word...they can't help it, it just comes out...every-time...OVERRATED...

Not only do they dislike it, but everyone who does like it is wrong. Only they are cultural bellwethers for the human race, and only their taste rates culture correctly.

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This isn't just any other movie, it was considered revolutionary for the genre in it's realism and how it was directed. That alone is going to get it a bit of hate since most that watch it are going to say "it's overrated".

Me? I didn't think it was particularly great entertainment wise, but I can appreciate how well made it was. And all these films set in outer space aren't popping up for nothing.

No one Gives it to you...you have to take it

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Can't speak for everyone else but I hated it from boring start to unrealistic finish.
I see some writing reviews based on the cinematography but if I wanted to see incredible visuals, there are a ton of great visually appealing space documentaries on Netflix where I can actually learn something meaningful in the process.
Sorry but 2 hours of Sandra Bullock breathing hard and saying "ah...eh...ah...ehh" and it's in a pg13 film, is not interesting to me whatsoever.
What they should have done is to create scenes from planet Earth similar to Apollo 13 to help create tension. I loved Apollo 13 but that film would have lost tons of interest if they merely focused on the ship with Tom Hanks and crew for 2 hours. The scenes with the intense Ed Harris at mission control made that film great.
I am quite certain Gravity will have it's strong supporters and that is fine but just not even close to my cup of tea.
I give it a 1.

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