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I actually felt bad about her

posted 2 years ago by woodenbird (167)
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This movie makes us ask ourselves about the limits of cancel culture and "the separating the art from the artist" dilema.

Even though she was a predator and ruined lives, someone as talented as her got her life ruined and ended up in the most ridiculous and humiliating place for her habilites. Humanity will now miss her compositions and her orchestras, her music genius and her point of view, to make place to a more mediocre director. I wonder if in real life someone like that can get cancelled to that point.

Of course a punishment is necessary so the powerful will stop predating others, but should we go that far?

[–] Heisenberg (6730) 2 years ago

Well, it is a great injustice to stop a great talent because of other reasons (prejudice, punishment, etc). But this world is anything but just, so...there you go!

In this case, she had some guilt for her wrongdoings. How can you handle it differently?
All the people investing in her have also the right to know and think that she is an upstanding person.
You cannot be as bad as you want to be, and still expect people to admire you or put their best effort in your favor and help you, finance you, support you.
In these kind of elevated positions (idols, celebrities, leaders, etc), you HAVE to be better than the rest, better than yourself, or else...you are in the wrong position. Easy as that.

[–] Strazdas (2472) 2 years ago

But what was shown in the movie that makes her a predator? She fired a tone-deaf manager? She actually made good points to a idiot? She got falsely accused on social media? Why wouldnt you feel bad for her?

The movie does not actually show her being a predator or ruining any lives.

[–] intamin (25) a year ago

I've thought about this some, I'm not really sure, though. There are clearly scenes of her having some mental instability regarding the affair. When her heart is on fire on the bed in the river. Flashbacks in darkness of her having sex with Krista, seemingly.

I think its intentionally vague as to her culpability, but...something is there. I just don't know what it is!

[–] NoEasyBuckets (349) a year ago

But we do see that she ruined someone's life. The e-mails that she wanted deleted showed that she sabotaged the career of the student she had an affair with, which drove her to suicide. Her assistant shows concern but she says to just ignore it. Throughout the whole film we see her using her power on behalf of her sex life, and everyone else around her knows it and is uncomfortable with her decisions but they don't question her authority. I don't know how you can not see what she was doing.

[–] Strazdas (2472) 8 months ago

But we dont know whether these emails are correct or not. For all we know those emails may be 100% factual truth about the student, but she still deleted them as anyone not wanting to be associated with the suicide would.