It's degrading to the women because they're NOT using their brains.
By that "logic" then it would be degrading to women if they were hired for a job because of their smaller framed bodies. Like if a company hired mostly women because the average height of a woman is 5'4" and they are required to work in a space only 5'6" high.
Since you don't think it's degrading to women, then why don't more men work at restaurants wearing less clothes?
They even have one for men too now & it's called Tallywackers,
Wow. It is pretty sad when you can't even remember what you wrote just a few hours ago.
Simple because men are smart enough to realize that firstly, men need to be fully clothed
So what you are saying is that there are no strip clubs that hire men? Or are you saying The Chippendales are no longer in business?
because they're smart enough to know that they're NOT going to degrade themselves by using their bodies instead of their minds for work.
I dare you to walk up to a laborer holding 'Stop/Slow' sign in a construction area and tell them they are degrading themselves since they are using their body instead of their mind for work. Say that to a Teamster working the assembly line for one of the Big 3 in Detroit.
Why the women don't go to Red Lobster of Applebee's or Taco Cabana or On the Border, or TGI Friday's is because they'd rather degrade themselves @ inappropriate restaurants.
Thank you for admitting that it is a choice, and therefore is only degrading if a woman chooses to feel that way about it.
My joke ✈ right past your head! My point is that men are more likely to go to places like those aforementioned because they're NOT going for the food.
Your point isn't valid. If they didn't serve food at those places, people wouldn't go as much as they do. People who go to bars simply to drink won't go to places that cost a little more just so they can see jiggles.
I just know I'd NEVER go to those places to eat because they're inappropriate
...for you. And that is fine you feel that way.
The funny thing is, when I was dating my wife she was always telling me to have an open mind about things. Then, one night after a baseball game, I turned the tables on her about going to Hooters. She objected at first, but then gave in because it would have been hypocritical.
Once there, she laughed and said that she sees more skin when she works out at the gym at school. We've gone there lots of times because she isn't uptight about stuff like that.
What's also funny is that we've gone to the beach in Florida several times. We usually hit a tavern on the beach when we get hungry. You would cr*p your panties at all of the women who walk in off the beach and sit there eating in their bikinis.
I doubt the food is any better than elsewhere.
Don't know unless you try.
I'll NEVER go to a themed restaurant where people's bods are on display. It's just nasty and makes me vomit.
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by justanicknamed » 31 minutes ago (Sun Nov 8 2015 14:22:42)
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It's degrading to the women because they're NOT using their brains.
By that "logic" then it would be degrading to women if they were hired for a job because of their smaller framed bodies. Like if a company hired mostly women because the average height of a woman is 5'4" and they are required to work in a space only 5'6" high.
Since you don't think it's degrading to women, then why don't more men work at restaurants wearing less clothes?
They even have one for men too now & it's called Tallywackers,
Wow. It is pretty sad when you can't even remember what you wrote just a few hours ago.
Simple because men are smart enough to realize that firstly, men need to be fully clothed
So what you are saying is that there are no strip clubs that hire men? Or are you saying The Chippendales are no longer in business?
because they're smart enough to know that they're NOT going to degrade themselves by using their bodies instead of their minds for work.
I dare you to walk up to a laborer holding 'Stop/Slow' sign in a construction area and tell them they are degrading themselves since they are using their body instead of their mind for work. Say that to a Teamster working the assembly line for one of the Big 3 in Detroit.
Why the women don't go to Red Lobster of Applebee's or Taco Cabana or On the Border, or TGI Friday's is because they'd rather degrade themselves @ inappropriate restaurants.
Thank you for admitting that it is a choice, and therefore is only degrading if a woman chooses to feel that way about it.
My joke ✈ right past your head! My point is that men are more likely to go to places like those aforementioned because they're NOT going for the food.
Your point isn't valid. If they didn't serve food at those places, people wouldn't go as much as they do. People who go to bars simply to drink won't go to places that cost a little more just so they can see jiggles.
I just know I'd NEVER go to those places to eat because they're inappropriate...for you. And that is fine you feel that way.
The funny thing is, when I was dating my wife she was always telling me to have an open mind about things. Then, one night after a baseball game, I turned the tables on her about going to Hooters. She objected at first, but then gave in because it would have been hypocritical.
Once there, she laughed and said that she sees more skin when she works out at the gym at school. We've gone there lots of times because she isn't uptight about stuff like that.
What's also funny is that we've gone to the beach in Florida several times. We usually hit a tavern on the beach when we get hungry. You would cr*p your panties at all of the women who walk in off the beach and sit there eating in their bikinis.
I doubt the food is any better than elsewhere.
Don't know unless you try.
I'll NEVER go to a themed restaurant where people's bods are on display. It's just nasty and makes me vomit.
In effect, I'm saying that men who choose to lose their clothes like The Chippendales, or even @ Tallywackers are degrading themselves in the same way that women are who choose to work @ places like Twin Peaks, Hooters, etc. Additionally, MOST men aren't strippers nor are they working @ scantily clad restaurants like Tallywackers. You'll find that more women than men are degrading themselves to make moolah and that's simply sad for anyone, who chooses to use their bodies instead of their brains. That's my main point.
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In effect, I'm saying that men who choose to lose their clothes like The Chippendales, or even @ Tallywackers are degrading themselves in the same way that women are who choose to work @ places like Twin Peaks, Hooters, etc.
There. That is the most important word. It is their choice. And, they can choose to feel it degrades them or they can choose to not feel like it degrades them.
who chooses to use their bodies instead of their brains.
You conveniently skipped all of this.
By that "logic" then it would be degrading to women if they were hired for a job because of their smaller framed bodies. Like if a company hired mostly women because the average height of a woman is 5'4" and they are required to work in a space only 5'6" high.
I dare you to walk up to a laborer holding 'Stop/Slow' sign in a construction area and tell them they are degrading themselves since they are using their body instead of their mind for work. Say that to a Teamster working the assembly line for one of the Big 3 in Detroit.
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9 years ago
They're degrading themselves whether they "feel" like they're degrading themselves or not,though, because the male customers are gawking @ them and NOT there to simply eat, but to look @ the women. The women are seen as objects rather than as waitresses. That's my contention.
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9 years ago
Not your place to judge how other people feel or to tell them they should feel degraded.
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9 years ago
true, but by definition, someone allowing themselves to be objectified is degrading. just like someone who lacks morals, by definition, is immoral. it's not a value judgment as much as it is a fact that when someone is allowing their bodies to be objectified, then they are, in effect, degrading themselves.
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9 years ago
It is all subjective. I only watched an episode or two of Wife Swap. One Manhattan socialite wife had to go live with a family in some rural area. That wife was MORTIFIED by having to clean a toilet. She felt it was degrading to her to have to clean someone else's urine stains.
Knowing that I've been up to my shoulders pulling sh!t (literally) out of sewer pipes, I don't find using a toilet brush on a strangers toilet to be degrading.
I won't say that I believe them, but I've seen interviews with strippers and prostitutes who say they don't feel they are being degrading. Maybe they don't - who knows if they are telling the truth.
I've also seen an interview with an intern who worked for celebrity who felt degraded because the celebrity made them take the seeds out of the watermelon so the celebrity could eat it while they were in the recording studio.
It is all subjective and not your job to tell anyone what is or isn't degrading to them.
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9 years ago
most people would find using your body inappropriately as being degrading.
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justanicknamed
9 years ago
And it is still subjective. Was it appropriate for me to be sticking my arms in to sewer pipes to literally clean sh!t out of them?
How about if the servers are all from countries where women all swim topless? How about if the servers all grew up in nudist colonies? They would be wearing more clothes than normal, so that wouldn't be inappropriate.
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by justanicknamed » Wed Nov 11 2015 05:31:05
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And it is still subjective. Was it appropriate for me to be sticking my arms in to sewer pipes to literally clean sh!t out of them?
While opinions are subjective, we base our laws on what's deemed moral, at least, typically and if walking around like a nudie was both legal and appropriate, then the majority of civilized society wouldn't object to it. Your comments are out there.
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9 years ago
Nothing of which you just babbled answered the questions I just asked.
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by justanicknamed » 2 hours ago (Sun Dec 13 2015 00:29:25)
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Nothing of which you just babbled answered the questions I just asked.
Sticking your hands in raw sewage when you're wearing protective clothes & gloves for a job isn't degrading because it's NOT demoralizing. Conversely, prancing around, though, in skimpy shirts and shorts; however, is deemed degrading in American culture because parts of the waitress' body are being exposed and while it's an eating establishment if people were ONLY going there for the food, then they wouldn't need to resort to wearing skimpy outfits. I mean would you want your grandmother or mom to go with you to Hooters, or your boss if she were a woman? Probably not. Typically, men disrespect women, who lack self-esteem and there's plenty of other waitress jobs out there that don't require you to degrade yourself on the job. Women should empower themselves and they lose power when they degrade themselves for a waitressing job that requires them to wear inappropriate attire. That's my whole contention. Incidentally, I'm just going through my past messages & editing some of them, and I noticed I didn't adequately answer you last time.
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9 years ago
Sticking your hands in raw sewage when you're wearing protective clothes & gloves for a job isn't degrading because it's NOT demoralizing.
Says you. I know people who were disgusted by using a toilet brush to clean their own toilet. Also, who said I had proper protective clothing?
Either way, it is
SUBJECTIVE.Conversely, prancing around, though, in skimpy shirts and shorts; however, is deemed degrading
by certain people because it is
SUBJECTIVE.
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Simplythebest79424
9 years ago
So, what are you trying to say? That everything is "subjective?"
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9 years ago
Yep. And it only took you a month to understand it.👍
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by justanicknamed » 2 hours ago (Sun Dec 13 2015 21:07:43)
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Yep. And it only took you a month to understand it.👍
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