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Not clear to me when/where Alicia met Peter and whether she and Will ...


So Will and Alicia met at Georgetown Law -- that's clear from several references thruout the show.

But where and when did she meet Peter?
And, did she break up with Will because she wanted to start dating Peter? If not, why did she and Will break up? Was it his choice, because he was a bit of a womanizer and/or couldn't commit? Her choice because he was a little too wild?

I've been binge-watching, and I don't think I've heard any hints about any of this. Thanks for any help on this.

"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."

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I think Will mentioned that their "timing" kept being wrong, which I took to mean that they kept being at different places in their lives, whenever they got together.

MY take on it was that Alicia was like so many people I've known, who make bad choices because deep down they don't really believe they even deserve to be happy. So they pick guys who they KNOW are going to hurt them, but they do it anyway. Peter was apparently from a "good family" (i.e. MONEY and prestige), while Will must have gone through some tough times if he'd been desperate enough to make the mistake of taking some of a client's trust fund -- but he put it right back when he had second thoughts about it and knew it was wrong.

Will did the same kinds of things all lawyers do when they're fighting for their clients, but he was never the lying cheating sleazeball that Peter was. I found it interesting that, even in the final episode, Alicia was still thinking that Will was the one who got away, while she was finally going to divorce Peter. A bit late for that!

It's funny to characterize Will as a womanizer. When Alicia rejected him for the dirtbag, he was free, as a bachelor, to see whoever he wanted. The tattooed lawyer who made a play for him that didn't work mentioned that he'd gone on a "sexual sabbatical" after Alicia. In much of the series, he was waiting for Alicia to make up her mind and make the right choice for a change. If he saw other women in the meantime, that was only natural. He wasn't a monk.

And about womanizing, Alicia's lawfully wedded husband is the one who could never keep it in his pants, even with his loving wife waiting faithfully for him at home while he was out banging hookers. He paid Amber for kinky sex with his family's money 18 different times, by his own sworn testimony in court. And when he extorted sexual services from Kalinda in return for a favour, he was still married to Alicia.

Typically, though, Alicia held that against Kalinda, to whom it meant nothing, and was only a means to an end -- while she stupidly stood by Peter, who didn't deserve it. This cost her friends, self-respect, and possibly her job, too. That was the tragic irony of being "the Good Wife", that she'd stand by the wrong guy no matter what -- and it cost her everything.

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Thanks for your reply. I stand by the characterization of Will as a womanizer (= a man who engages in numerous casual sexual affairs with women) -- lots and lots of women over the years, and many were flings. He broke up with Tammy's sister to take up with Alicia; then there was the overlap of Tammy and Alicia; the fling with Giada, whose calls he didn't return; the re-fling with Giada when he needed her to testify about the drunk judge's comments; the fling with the former coke-using lawyer; he took up with Laura as soon as Alicia said "We have to move on"; the relationship with Caitlin (the opposing lawyer played by Lisa Edelstein), plus her reference to having a threesome with him and someone else. He's a guy who doesn't know how to be alone, and he keeps using women to fill the emptiness in his life.

Fwiw, I don't think of "womanizer" as such a horrible thing. Plenty of men and women have plenty of casual sex, and as long as it's OK with both, no harm no foul. And, I agree that Will was a far better person (well, fictional person) than Peter -- I mean, HOOKERS???? Gross. And, Peter's lust for power was also kind of icky.

Btw, Will took the money to cover a gambling debt, not because he came from a hardscrabble background. It's pretty clear that all of the main characters in this series, save Kalinda, are from educated, professional, upper-middle-class backgrounds; Will wouldn't have made it so far so fast if he hadn't been one of that crowd. Not as posh as WASPY Peter, but definitely from a solid background.

Anyway. You do or don't know how Peter and Alicia met? It is or isn't specified at some point in the series? Thanks.

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You do or don't know how Peter and Alicia met? It is or isn't specified at some point in the series? Thanks.
Oh sorry, I got carried away and forgot that was your question. 

As far as I can remember, I don't think we were ever told how Alicia and Peter met. I think I'd always just assumed that when she and Will didn't work out at that point in their lives, she had just met Peter who was older and wealthier and from an "upper-class" WASP-y family. Somehow he had seemed appealing to her at the time, I guess. Hard for me to imagine....

BTW, the character Lisa Edelstein played was named Celeste Serrano -- in the funny New York way that Jews play Italians, and Italians play Jews. I liked her in it, but I hated her hair. (Caitlin is such an Irish Catholic name, it wouldn't have suited her at all.)

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In the first season, Alicia tells Will that, if she had chosen him over Peter, it wouldn't have lasted for more than a day. This suggests that, at one time in the past, Alicia was acquainted with both men, and in a position to choose between them. The three of them probably met at Georgetown as students, both guys liked Alicia, but she fell for Peter. Besides, when Will visits Peter, it is clear that the two of them knew each other well, and not through Alicia. As for who's a womanizer and who's a scumbag, what difference does it make? Just try to picture Chris Noth really young, the way he looked in L & O, and you'll understand her decision, even if you cannot approve it. Ideally, character should trump looks, but this is not always the case. Money and social connections are a different matter, unfortunately; they always trump everything else, but Peter was the richer and the best connected one. So it was just looks vs. (lack of) character, and when a guy looks like a young Chris Noth (or a young Bill Clinton, for that matter, since the show is full of references to this former and, probably, future first family), even very smart women like fictional Alicia or real life Hillary may skip the personality check and just go for it. This doesn't mean that they won't regret it later, it just means that we all make stupid decision under certain circumstances.

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