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Why can't aliens be alien?


It struck me while watching this garbage that one key thing annoyed me more than the bad plot/acting/script.

The aliens just aren't aliens. They've been anthropomorphised to such a degree they may as well be humans in fancy armour. Yes their tech and appearance is different to ours, but they act in strikingly human ways. They even miraculously are able to connect their tech to a human satellite installation. That's one hell of an adapter. Where can I buy one?

This often seems to be the case in Hollywood films. Aliens are just basically humans in daft costumes. Independence day springs to mind.

How do you prefer your aliens? Human-like or truly alien? And are there many good films where the aliens genuinely feel alien and act so? I'd love to watch more stuff in that vein. Things like the Alien sequence or the Abyss.

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I love all sorts of aliens, but in this specific movie, I liked that the aliens were very similar to humans: the whole reason for their coming to Earth was because humans had discovered an earthlike planet and sent a signal there. It stands to reason that an earthlike planet would produce lifeforms similar to ours. I loved the double set of opposable thumbs too.

I don't think it's a Hollywood thing, but rather a movie thing in general. Can you think of non-Hollywood aliens that are less anthropomorphic?

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I can't easily think of non-Hollywood examples in either direction tbh. Most wide release films I've been able to see come from Hollywood. Especially when the films involve sci fi/ aliens.

Oh I can think of 1 example, though. The aliens in Attack the Block aren't manlike. They're animalistic. To be fair, though, they were probably that way due to budget.

Another example just came to mind. Grabbers.

And District 9.

Monsters.

Actually, there seem to be quite a few non-Hollywood films with aliens that feel more alien. Those examples all came to mind with only a little thought. I'm sure imdb-ers out there can think of many more.

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There is little reason why they'd look like us, even if their planet was similar to ours because we're a relatively recent accident of evolution. The dinosaurs were around for a lot longer than us!

Considering how diverse life is on Earth, if you speculated or tried to imagine what intelligent animals might evolve from what we see around us, you would rarely end up with something human looking.

Opposable thumbs, upright stance, eyes facing forwards for depth perception - these 3 are reasonable assumptions (which the film also makes) but they don't necessitate a species that resembles humans, except perhaps superficially.

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It stands to reason that an earthlike planet would produce lifeforms similar to ours.

Since Earth has produced such a wide variety of life, i find that statement lacking credibility.

Aliens are most often bipedal with two arms because it's easier to put a man in a costume. with CGI, there's really no excuse for humanoid aliens unless there's a story reason behind it, not just budget.

It’s ridiculous to critique a movie with the argument 'it's not real, so it doesn't matter'

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E.T., War of the Worlds, Independence Day, Predator, Alien, District 9 all had interesting, entertaining alien biologies. They don't have to be "realistic" until we actually discover them in real life!

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you have to remember that all Hollywood science fiction alien invasion movies stem back to a time when the U.S. was inhabited 99.9% by christian people, who universally believed that humans were the pinnacle of god's creations, and that god was human like himself, so therefore all advanced civilizations would be human like as well (we considered ourselves to be civilized back then; our most advanced minds today realize that we are still for the most part barbarians).
Real aliens would probably be very unlike us; so much so, that they would be so much further on the evolutionary scale from us, that we would appear to them, as simple as ants do to us.

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I think the problem with seriously "alien" aliens would be that we'd have no real frame of reference to understand them. It could be very hard portaying their motivations in a way we'd understand when watching a film.

That said, I would like to see more non-bipeds. We don't have to be limited by people in costumes these days after all.

Questions: which aliens did any of you most enjoy watching? Which did you find most interesting? Most scary?

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If you watch some of the directors interviews, Peter Berg clearly references some of the other kinds of aliens that he could have created or directed the creation of.

But he wanted more anthropomorphic aliens. I think this is probably better for audiences. The farther into "alien" territory you get, the less recognizable and understandable it becomes for the general audience member.

Sure, you could go completely haywire alien like Edge of Tomorrow and get really whacked out, but the audience will have a hard time connecting.

I'm pretty sure Peter Berg knew this.

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Originally it was due to cost; prosthetics were expensive and CG didn't exist. Now its more due to the laziness of the CG generation. If you make something that isn't bipedal or human analog, you have to develop back story and explanations of how they function (they dont have legs how do they move around, etc. etc.).

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A lot of the purported UFO sightings that involve the pilots and/or crews of such craft have the creatures very similar to humans. So for Hollywood to depict them in such a way is not unreasonable.

lLease note: I'm not saying these so-called 'close encounters' really took place, but they almost always have the crews human-like in appearance.

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The biggest reason is that the lazy filmmakers assume the audiences are just as lazy. Therefore they don't want to make aliens that would confuse the "lowest common denominator" audience in any way. It fits in with this overall assumption that if aliens came to earth, it would be to conquer us through relatively conventional weapons.

Which I've come to believe is why, if there are any real aliens out there capable of reaching earth, they will be too smart to want anything to do with us (or at best they'll try not to let their presence here be known). Who wants to be attacked just for dropping by?

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It's probably laziness. Shame.

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A lot of the purported UFO sightings that involve the pilots and/or crews of such craft have the creatures very similar to humans. So for Hollywood to depict them in such a way is not unreasonable.

lLease note: I'm not saying these so-called 'close encounters' really took place, but they almost always have the crews human-like in appearance.


but what came first the sightings or the sci-fi films...

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Do you remember Space Above And Beyond? Humans and Chigs do have common origins. So do the aliens and humans in Battleship.

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One could argue that species that live in the same approximate environments, and share many of the same social and technological attributes would also evolve along the same lines, and share many of the same physical attributes.

That is to say, that if they are like us in so many other ways, then why wouldn't they be like us in still others.

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Aliens in movies are for the most part simply designed to 1. be easily recognizable as the bad guys and 2. be just different enough from humans to ensure that their complete destruction bothers no-one's conscience and can be cheered on.
At the same time, they have to be similar enough to humans that not too big a stretch of the imagination is required to believe that their suffering is similar to our own. After all, who knows what a Ganymedian slime-mold or a many-tentacled one-eyed squid from Proxima Centauri is feeling? It may be completely indifferent to being shot, cut up, having its relatives wiped out, etc. - the satisfaction gained from visiting righteous violence on such creatures would be lacking.

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When you think of it: humanoid form is pretty efficient. Really efficient. Run. Climb. Swim. Squat. Hunch over.

Would make sense, that humanoid forms would prosper on other planets with gravity.

But I agree: I would like to see some strange aliens too.

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