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How exactly is this MacGyver?

posted 8 years ago by Progeekzy
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First we didint learn his first name till the last episode, 7 years. You want to lay that down in the first 5 minutes? No, stop it.

Mac worked alone. Hes a lone wolf and thats how mac liked things.

Jack Dalton and mac were not partners...not like this. And if they were partners Jack should be well aware that mac hates guns....why would he toss him down one?

Thornton was 2 things. A father figure to mac and the giver of tasks. OK you changed the role to female.......how you gonna work in that father figure?

Where the heck was the duct tape? Did mac do a single mission without at least a few feet of duct tape? That made mac....mac.

Action/fighting. MacGyver fought with his mind, using the environment and what he found around him. He hardly ever used his fists and he would never agree with someone being shot. Yet in the new show hes hitting someone in almost every scene.

Did the producers even watch the original show? Or did they get something sorta kinda close but still miles away and slap the MacGyver name on it?

If your going to make a reboot at least make it feel in some way closely related to the original.

[–] dlbach1 8 years ago

Just a minor correction for the last line of your post. This was not a spin-off. A spin off series will take one character (or a couple) from a show and develop an entirely different show around them. This they are calling a reboot. I have dubbed it a reincarnation. Had they done a regurgitation of the original, it would have been much better. MacGyver used his wit to get out of sticky situations, NOT his grit.

This was too predictable as with other shows doing the same thing, blow 'em up, shoot 'em up, beat 'em up. There was no real MacGyvering being done at all.

DL Bach

[–] Progeekzy 8 years ago

You are correct. I will edit my post. Thank you. Dang pre coffee brain not thinking....

[–] dlbach1 8 years ago

I do understand.

DL Bach

[–] eelw11 8 years ago

The biggest change I have hard time with is the accidental killing. When does he ever take a life?

[–] rammur65 8 years ago

Blown quiet a few trucks and vehicles up in the original with bad guys in them he isnt superman or batman only thing he never liked in the original was using a gun because of the childhood inncident.Otherthan that he does whatever he can to get the job done.

[–] werkis2002 8 years ago

I liked in original when he ducked and overconfident haker lady jumped out window, tough if she wouldn't she would beat out crap of Mac.

[–] ninthcentury 8 years ago

I started watching MacGyver TOS because it was recommended to me as "Oh, it's so wonderful, he doesn't use guns!!!" But I eventually realised that while he doesn't use guns, he used a lot of other things that endangered lives, and to hell with the bad guys who might or might not die thanks to his actions.

I was left utterly unimpressed that Mac "refuses to use guns" when rockets, homemade IEDs, poison gas, and anything else he chooses will do the trick for him. I'm sorry, but it just made me really sad that people should have fallen for that line that the show was "good" because he didn't use guns. Killing is killing, and if you do it with a knitting needle instead of a bullet, you still just killed them.

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[–] MovieKnut 8 years ago

Relax dude. It's not like Mac flipped out on random killing sprees. Those bad guys who might or might not die thanks to his actions, they were trying to kill Mac and/or people he was trying to help.

One other thing, it's a fictional tv show,

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[–] GTizzle 8 years ago

Let me guess- you haven't missed a Sunday in Church for 30 years, right?

Freako. Chill the hell out.

[–] chr-87506 8 years ago

BUT! He did use an AK in the very first Episode, they wrote the "not liking guns" part in later.

[–] lockon_stratos 8 years ago

Not that I am crazy about this show but they don't want it to be exactly like the original. They want to do somethings differently. So far not so great

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[–] moonnight072 8 years ago

well at least they should have kept the core of what macgyver is wich is a lone wolf who dont like violence or guns and gets out of trouble with his pocket knife,duck tape and chewing gum.... all they had right was the pocket knife the rest does not represent what macgyver is at the core and for growing up and watching the show ,this is nbo way a representation of what it should be

The difference beteween genius and stupidity... genius has its limit

[–] vmackey777 8 years ago

Personally, I don't have a problem with them re-imagining the character and his interactions with Jack and the others.
I do have a problem however with the quality of the show. And, oh boy it's bad.

[–] memphis-19091 8 years ago

On the plus side (for me), it was better than Bull. lol

[–] paladinj 8 years ago

This I agree with

[–] boxerrebellion 8 years ago

I thought that turning Pete into a woman was a good choice, it did up the diversity level. As to the 'father figure' - she could still be a mentor, without being male.

[–] nullcreations 8 years ago

The moment you start talking about "diversity levels" you out yourself as a worthless individual.

[–] boxerrebellion 8 years ago

No, just a white Mama to children of colour who sees through their eyes. How would you like to go to a school where 80% of the students look 'alike', but not like you? How would you like to live in a community where no one else looks like you, but all sure as heck look like each other? The idea of the all female Ghost Busters was stupid as all get out. The reason they were all male in the original is because it was sort of a 'buddy movie', and the idea of a group of comedians who often worked together who happened to be male. Had the new one been the children of the originals, at least one of whom happened to be female, it would have made a lot more sense.

The phrase 'diversity level' may just be a side effect of being interested in America as a whole, not just a bunch of old white men.... or it may be indicative of being in grad school and needing to communicate (speak & write) like a frickin' thesaurus. I'm also a retired Sailor and sometimes speak like one, much to my Mother's lament.

[–] nullcreations 8 years ago

You type a lot but all it means is "we need more diversity because diversity"

Quotas aren't good for anyone. All they do is force a racial mix even if it means producing a horrible picture. Nobody cares what color your babies are. It's not some special badge of honor that allows you to speak authoritatively on such subjects. It's like being the person who says "I have a friend who is black" to prop themselves up as an authority on race. Guess what, I know someone at NASA. That doesn't make me an astrophysicist.

As for ghostbusters, the movie probably would have gone over fine if they had made a better trailer, and Paul Feig could take criticism. Overall the movie wasn't bad and it probably could have made money.

Instead he tried to pull the race/gender/equality card and that tanked his movie hard. This is what happens when you social justice tards try too hard to push an agenda that clearly doesn't make any sense.

"Diversity levels" is a red flag statement. It tells me that you're more interested in diversity than you are in competence, effort, or achievement. A useless person.

[–] boxerrebellion 8 years ago

Sorry, didn't realize I was dealing with a troll. Blocked, and um, enjoy the rest of your whatever.

[–] robocop-37224 8 years ago

I'm surprised they didn't replace macgyver with a black guy. They do it with every other remake/reboot. But whatever

[–] treandw 8 years ago

I'm surprised they didn't make him gay i mean gay is the new black and cmon its right there in his moniker macgayver. On a more serious note this show is a joke.

[–] NostalgiasForGeeks 8 years ago

What? I thought the new character WAS gay.

[–] tom_42 8 years ago

I'm surprised they didn't replace macgyver with a black guy. They do it with every other remake/reboot. But whatever

Examples?

[–] firefly900 8 years ago

Jimmy Olsen in Supergirl.... Moneypenny in James Bond, the constant calling for Idris Elba to be cast as James Bond etc etc

[–] jasoharvo 8 years ago

And don't forget'Annie'

[–] firefly900 8 years ago

And Herimone is black now in the new Harry Potter play, but dont say anything or else your a racist!
Not to mention all the white comic book characters who are now black, Nick Fury being a prime example.

[–] andrewh73 8 years ago

Yeah they are taking everything right? Eventually it will be 6 characters. We have nothing left soon.

[–] margare-09892 8 years ago

I expected to be disappointed because of my deep affection for the original show. And indeed I was disappointed. The whole thing was just "meh", and I saw the twist the minute it happened. (No spoilers, in case someone hasn't watched their DVR yet.) That being said, just to be fair, I'll give it another try next week. If it's still on next week, that is.

[–] Evariste-Galois 8 years ago

(No spoilers, in case someone hasn't watched their DVR yet.)

You do realize you can mark-up spoilers, right?

The butler did it.

[–] sdpunk549 8 years ago

If my memory serves me correctly, Macgyver never killed anyone. In the first 10 minutes, they ram a boat into the guys chasing them and blow them up. Completely lacks the spirit of the original.

[–] HellboundHero 8 years ago

If Murdoc ever actually stayed dead, MacGyver's actions in Partners(throwing a rock into the windshield of the truck and causing Murdoc to drop the dynamite), the Widowmaker(holding up Murdoc's rope so that he accidentally cuts it and falls), and Cleo Rocks(electrocuting him and causing him to fall into a flaming pool) would have killed him.

[–] bicuhang 8 years ago

What are the odds that boat would hit them directly? Plus, did you wonder why Dalton, while he was 'waiting', didn't disable the other boat? There were so many scenes like that, that had me rolling my eyes.

The episode was awful and a far cry from MacGyver.

[–] rammur65 8 years ago

Oh stop the god damn he never kills anyone bandwagon crap we see enough of that in the dc movies. i cant even count how many times the original mac blows trucks and boats up with bad guys in them.even so this macguyver is not the damn 80s its a reimagined macguyver dont like it puty on ya damn prude caps and go rewatch the originals over and over or simply turn the damn channel.Some people are gonna enjoy this series as bad as it may be we hipsters who grew up watching the origianls are outnumbered like 100 to 1 so moan on not gonna fix anything.

[–] bingcrosbyfan2 8 years ago

I have to agree with Progeekzy! I'm a fan of the original and by Jesus this version SUCKED!!!!

I HATE all these "REBOOTS"! Here I thought that it was going to have the original Pilot with a "NEW" Actor. Female Thorton? WTF? Sorry.

I hope and pray that RDA isn't going to play "Harry". Mac never referred to Harry as his Grandpa. He always called him Harry.

[–] HellboundHero 8 years ago

I HATE all these "REBOOTS"! Here I thought that it was going to have the original Pilot with a "NEW" Actor.

I'm not sure what you're saying. The original pilot of this show that was scrapped because of the negative reaction?