Moving To Sunday
NCIS Los Angeles is moving to Sundays at 8pm
http://tvline.com/2016/05/18/cbs-fall-tv-schedule-2016/
Not sure how to take this.😔
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Why is LA the red headed stepchild of NCIS shows ? New Orleans came on and goes on after the original and LA is always on another night. What is wrong with all 3 on the same night?
Now Michael Weatherly's new show goes on after NCIS ? Is it just because Mark Harmon isn't a producer and doesn't want anything to do with NCIS:LA ? I like all 3 shows, just wondering why one gets treated differently.
I got to make a poo poo!
Seriously wondering if they are trying to kill the show.
shareI have heard rumors that MH doesn't like NCIS LA. Not sure if true or not.
Alsp read CBS doesn't want any one franchise to have a whole night. So there was no way LA was going to move back to Tues.
Some think Sunday might not be too bad(other than the timing issue caused by sports broadcast), because it is a way to extends it's life. I am unsure if any of this is true though.
speculations about Mark Harmon disliking NCIS:LA have been rife for a long time, and it could be partially due to the tension between him and Shane Brennan...when Shane was still showrunner for the mothership show, there were alot of rumors saying that there were alot of friction between him and Mark, and Mark was not happy with how Shane ran the show and he even "petitioned" to have Shane replaced...which he eventually was.
shareMark Harmon had a problem with Bellisario not Shane. Shane took over for a season but stepped down to run NCIS:LA.
sharerumors have it that Mark had problems with both Bellisario AND Shane Brennan...when Bellisario left, Shane replaced him and he became the showrunner until S8, even though he continued to receive credits as executive producer until S11.
NCIS:LA only started airing in 2009 and by that time NCIS was already in its 6th and 7th seasons, Brennan continued to run NCIS until he gave his duties to Gary Glasberg at the end of S8 while he concentrated more on NCIS:LA. So Brennan was in charge of NCIS for several seasons before he moved to NCIS:LA, for a while especially during NCIS:LA's first season, Brennan had to run both shows simultaneously.
There were alot of rumors saying that Mark did not like how Brennan ran the show and had petitioned for him to be replaced by Glasberg as showrunner, which he eventually was, even though Glasberg was already doing all the everyday duties since the end of S8, but Glasberg only started to receive the credit of being showrunner in S11.
Mark Harmon has quite a bit of input on the mothership and NO, I presume. But does anyone really think he is so powerful that the CBS execs would move LA to Sunday just because MH wants it that way? In fact, if he had that much control over the network overall, he would have been very unlikely to "allow" the execs to schedule MW's new show right after NCIS.
Let's not invest him with the super powers IRL that GG and company have given Gibbs on NCIS.
I don't think MH has much control over the network overall, but you're talking about the NCIS franchise--and as the most popular of the three shows, the longest running, and one of the most popular shows in the world (not just the US)--I'm sure CBS execs listen when he talks about these shows.
sharewell I read that back when Bellisario was still the showrunner, because of the rift between him and Mark, CBS had to choose either to keep Bellisario or Mark, they had to pick one or the other...they couldn't keep both because rumors say that Bellisario and Mark could not come to a compromise. In the end CBS decided to side with Mark and keep him on the show, because they thought that Mark was more important to the show since he is the star of NCIS afterall, and so they booted Bellisario...it's easier for TV networks to replace producers than it is to change actors, especially when an actor plays a main character or is THE star of a show, which Mark is, viewers tend to connect more with the actors than the people behind production, and many people watch a particular show because of the actors they like. Whereas TV networks can easily replace producers with new ones, although Bellisario created NCIS and he still receives producing credits even though he is no longer involved on the mothership show, but it was much easier for CBS to replace him with new producers, than it would've been to replace Mark with a new actor.
As for Shane Brennan leaving...well, if those rumors about a rift between Mark and Brennan are true too, my guess is that since Brennan already had his hands full running NCIS:LA at the same time, his departure from NCIS may have partially been Brennan's own decision too. If he wasn't getting along with Mark and already has another project that he's busy working on, it might've been an easier decision for Brennan to make by leaving NCIS. And Brennan may have been more invested in NCIS:LA, so Brennan probably wanted to leave NCIS anyway so that he could concentrate and spend more time working on NCIS:LA...it would explain why he had already gave much of his showrunning duties to Gary Glasberg since the end of S8.
I don't think Mark necessarily has a lot of control over the execs at CBS...I think it's just because Mark is so important for NCIS, he is the star of the show, without him, NCIS would not be able to continue, and the guys at CBS knows that. So it's understandable if CBS sides with Mark, listens to him and give him special treatment...they know that if Mark ever decides to leave NCIS, that would be the end of the show. And NCIS has been CBS' top-rated show, so it's too important of a show for CBS to lose.
Well I think it's fair to say he has some control. Bellisario wasn't just an executive producer, if I recall right, didn't he actually create the show? Bellisario had more than a passing interest in the show. The networks decision to back Mark instead eventually had Bellisario suing them, with the whole thing being settled out of court. Safe to say Bellisario got paid handsomely. Should be noted that David Bellisario, Donald's son, is a producer on the show. Not sure how much pull he has though.
shareYes Bellisario later sued CBS, but I think the lawsuit was over the creation of NCIS:LA, not for him being dismissed from NCIS...if I remember correctly, Bellisario sued CBS because on his original contract with CBS, which would've given Bellisario the rights to create another spinoff for NCIS, but instead CBS had appointed Shane Brennan as creator and showrunner of NCIS:LA; a role which should've been given to Bellisario according to his original contract, therefore he sued...before the lawsuit was eventually settled out of court.
I don't remember Bellisario suing CBS because he was laid off from NCIS though, all I know is that he sued the network because of the producing rights for NCIS:LA.
Yes Bellisario created NCIS and that's why he still continues to receive credit as the creator of the show, but he was fired a long time ago, as I said, it was easier for CBS to replace Bellisario than it would be to replace Mark on the show.
I am liking that they are showing it earlier, since staying up to watch an hour of action at 10pm makes it tougher to get up at 5am when you get to be my age (rather unhappy about NOLA moving from 9pm to 10pm on Tuesdays...). Still, move to Sunday usually means that it is on its last legs.
shareAgreed.
I don't live in the US so I'm not sure which timeslots are ideal and which are not, but 8pm on Sundays sounds like a good timeslot to me...I mean, it will air about 2 hours earlier than its previous timeslot of 10pm on mondays, so wouldn't that mean more people would tune in to watch on sundays? 10pm sounds like such a late timeslot, I would think less people would tune in that late...so I think this earlier timeslot might be a good thing for the show. Although I think this move to a new timeslot is not necessary because even though ratings for the past few seasons have dropped significantly, but it was still getting steady ratings in its monday timeslot...oh well, let's wait and see how well the show will do in its new sunday timeslot, who knows, it might turn out to be a better timeslot.
shareI think it is this: Sundays on CBS in the US cover American Football games, many of which go over the scheduled time; thus pushing the start time back for the shows to follow. There have been several instances of the games going so long, CBS has completely preempted the following shows and showing repeats. Hard to keep an audience when week after week the time changes or the show isn't on at all, messes with DVRing, etc.
shareThere is one given about NCIS LA, which is that it is a show for guys, and it will tank up against Sunday Night Football on NBC. I cannot stand New Orleans (tried it for a year and a half), not watching the mothership anymore (no Michael Weatherly who was best on the show), that leaves LA which I think is coming to the end.
shareI'm not a guy but I love NCIS LA , and cannot stand NO either! :D
I won't shed a tear either if they'd cancelled "the mothership". About time Mark Harmon retired.... The whole cast is getting too old - literally.
IMHO Michael Weatherly pulled out at just the right moment.
But thanks for many years of fine entertainment.
Whoa! I beg to differ that NCIS:LA is "just for guys"! It's not only guys who like action and special effects; besides, I love the banter between G & Sam, as well as Hetty & Granger and Eric & Nell (I'm less a fan of Densi because I find Deeks sooo annoyingly juvenile).
shareyou'd be surprised at just how many females like and watch NCIS:LA, heck about 99% of all the annoying Densi shippers are probably female...but that's not to say that most of this show's female viewers are Densi shippers, I know some females who hate Densi just as much as I do and I'm female too.
Overall NCIS:LA is not "just" for guys, it has a large female audience too...I don't know why you get the idea that this is "only" for guys? Is it because it's action-packed? Alot of women love to watch action shows too you know.
Since I DVR it and watch at my leisure, the move doesn't bother me. What does bother me is NO is still on. I cannot seem to get into it even though I love the 2male actors on the show.
shareI'll take NCIS LA anytime over the other 2 any day of the week. New Orleans is too perfect. And the original is the same show EVERY SINGLE WEEK..Tony says something...gets slapped in the head by Gibbs...Abby comes up with a last minute clue...bad guys/girls are either arrested or shot then arrested or just shot dead. I'd be more intimidated by Kensi then Gibbs. I bet the reason why Mark Harmon doesn't like. lA is cause it's the best show of the three. He's is jealous. Sounds like he's a little cry baby!
shareI definitely like NCIS LA the best of the three. NCIS is just too slow and predictable. I tried to watch NOLA and found it unwatchable. NCIS NOLA is just boring , the characters are boring. NCIS LA is really a great show, lots of actions, really good acting by the cast, and real relationships developing between the characters. I hope it does well on Sunday night .
shareNCIS: LA is too incredulous to be believable anymore. They go to other countries to find terroists or stop attacks, when that's really a job for the CIA. All their cases start with "this could be a terrorist front" or "we want to make sure there isn't an attack" Nothing at all to do with the Navy or Marines. Or my personal favorite, Callen going over to Russia to save an informant. And the whole Densi relationship is a huge distraction to the show. Time is wasted on their relationship issues, like marriage, having kids, or how messy they are.
NCIS is more realistic, and NOLA doesn't try to hard. They stick to the actual NCIS cases. Not CIA and FBI work which NCIS: LA continually oversteps its bounds doing.
This show was good when it first came on, but it's been slipping progressively since Season 3. Still watchable, but #3 behind the original and NOLA.
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Here's the thing: For years now, NCIS (the mothership) has had characters trot off overseas to chase terrorists and stop attacks and so forth. No, that's sure not what they should do (or even legally could do, as far as I know) as it's out of their jurisdiction and many times only vaguely Navy related. I think NCIS has strayed far, far from reality. Let's see a Mossad "liaison" officer who was actually a spy who then was given citizenship (oh, and at the age of 22 when we met her, she apparently had about 14 years experience based on what she said and the birth date GG gave her in season 8); story after story about revenge against Gibbs (usually), multiple terrorist arcs, plus Mossad and then more Mossad often related only to Ziva's "daddy issues"; breaking law after law and having no real repercussions from it; and now, a "lost" undercover agent who was I don't know where and who apparently went from training directly into a long-term dangerous assignment alone, plus a desk agent from personnel who is (I've heard) pretty rude and pushy (and conveniently has a "history" with Gibbs), and finally soon yet another liaison officer from MI6, who is also difficult, has trouble with authority, blah, blah, blah.
Sorry, but no, the mothership has no real credibility these days as realistic.
I will say, I also hate the whole Densi thing. It's distracting and annoying.
Spot on about the original NCIS--which I still watch, on occasion.
I, too, have had it with Densi. Get 'em married and then MOVE ON! It's the most boring relationship on TV. I have friends who work at regular jobs who have more drama in their relationship--and are much more mature. It seems the primary fans of Densi are older women and young girls (and a lot of foreign fans). Maybe the foreign fans see Deeks as the "typical" surfer dude. Deeks is also the least threatening of all the agents, including Kensi, so maybe these fans like a "cute" guy who's non-threatening, as opposed to an ex-SEAL, a seasoned sniper, or an agent with lots of experience.
I think the record technically has him retiring, which is probably right since he was around 72 years old at the time. Its clear Bellisario fought for what he thought was owed to him however it all went down. He still listed as the creator of NCIS (as you stated) and has a son involved as an executive producer too. I don't think the latter is an accident, although I suppose it could be window-dressing or Mark simply preferring him over dear old dad. Mark Harmon is also an executive producer, which basically happened right after Donald Bellisario left.
I do find it interesting that there is very little crossover between the 2 shows now.
I usually watch it on demand the next morning, because it was too hard to stay awake to watch it. It sucks that Sunday night sports will pre-empt or delay it. LA has become my favorite of the NCIS franchise. I love the relationships between the characters and the action. Callen and Sam, and Kensi and Deeks are both great partnerships.
shareLike the other post said it was a great show when it first started out. But since that Deeks character was introduced,it became all about his constant talking and everything turning into a sexual innuendos and meanwhile less about military crimes and then it turned into a relationship between the two Morons and military crimes were put on the back burner and now it's about Deeks, acting like a JEALOUS 5 year old, and the show formally known as NCIS LA will now be known as The Deeks and Kensi hour!
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