7 years into the show and nothing's happened. Not even dinner apparently. Since Eric's not going to attempt a grand gesture and Nell's going to clearly indicate that she feels the same way about Eric as he obviously does about her, Eric should just move on and passive-aggressively ice her out, if only to try to get a rise out of Nell. Don't show anything more than friendship to her, don't walk in or out with her, always have plans for the weekend and after work, date other women & subtly make it known you're seeing someone, dress like a woman picked out your clothes for you, be happier than usual about stuff you won't talk about, etc.
Couldn't agree more--not everyone who works together develops a romantic relationship. Can't anyone besides G and Sam keep it professional? And the idea of Hetty and Granger is just gross! 😨 BTW, anyone else think Granger is too OLD to be working in the field?
In Humbug (I think), Eric is going to spend Christmas with Nell and her family, and she's going to introduce him as her boyfriend. Evidently, they've done some things together, and it's okay with me if they don't get all mushy in episodes ("Densi" is more than enough nauseating mushiness for the entire life of the series).
There relationship is more of a brother and sister than anything else. I like what they are doing with them. Not all people who are partnered in jobs hop into bed with each other. In fact it is not as often in the real world as Hollywood would have us believe.
Except Abby and Mcgee did actually have a thing way back in the beginning. It was a passing thing, but at least they tried and then decided they were better as friends.
It's obvious Eric has always had a not very subtle thing for Nell, even if she has kept her feelings a lot more hidden. You think after 7 years, either he would have moved on, or she would have reciprocated, or even outright turned him down.
It's quite cruel how she has kept him on the edge all this time.She obviously gets off on his infatuations, but still cruel to let it go on this long.
well I remember the producers were asked about the status of Eric & Nell's relationship in S8 and they said that they will be focusing more on Densi right now and are putting the Eric & Nell relationship in the backseat for now.
It seems to me like they've been prioritizing the crappy Densi relationship ever since they made them a couple on the show just to satisfy all those Densi shippers...and are currently not going to take Eric & Nell's relationship much further for the time being.
I'm not sure why their relationship would be classed as crappy, or what would make it a good relationship. Personally, I've always seen their relationship as providing an interesting and usually light hearted break from the seriousness of the cases they are always working on. Their devotion to each other shows up in some episodes as well. Seems fine to me.
I would not go as far as to say I'm a Densi worshipper, but despite some people on here calling their relationship crappy, no-one can actually give good reasons why, or how they would improve it. You have 2 characters who are in love, flirted for seasons, then finally made the transition to more than that. What's wrong with it?
But, saying that, we have been focusing on Densi for a long time, they have been together for 3 seasons+, and are even at the point they are sort of engaged. There is no reason to focus on them as much now, and they could easily have done something with Nell and Eric in S8. With Daniela having another baby, and her being mostly absent, it would have provided an ideal opportunity. So, the producers answer is frankly lame.
And even saying that, from a purely character based POV, the way Nell has kept Eric stringing along all this time is evil. She knows how he feels, and has for a long time, so move on it. Or if you are not, at least give them a separate relationship outside NCIS. It would be funny to see Eric get a girlfriend, see how he copes with having a girlfriend, the ups and downs, and seeing his complete inexperience in dealing with it. Then they could also make Nell either act Jealous, forcing her to finally tell him that she feels the same as him, or if she isn't going to do that, give him advice about women.
I dislike Densi and think they make a crappy couple for several reasons:
1. Because I see absolutely no sexual or romantic chemistry between them at all, IMO they look like 2 siblings trying to act "romantic" together, so it always seems very awkward to me whenever they try to act "intimate" with each other, it's just not believable to me and just seems very forced. To me the Densi relationship just seems 'forced' together just to please all those annoying Densi shippers. But to me Kensi and Deeks are just too sibling-like to be believable as a "romantic" couple. They were great together when they were still just working partners because they had good platonic chemistry, as just partners and good friends and often they bantered like brother & sister. But as a romantic couple, they just do not work IMO, they just lack the romantic chemistry for their relationship to be convincing to me.
2. I find their interactions very annoying, they constantly ramble about their relationship when they're on the job (especially Deeks), and it's unprofessional, they should learn to separate their private lives from their professional lives and shouldn't bring their personal relationship into the workplace.
3. ever since Densi became a couple, they have put Kensi's characterization in the backseat...in the past, Kensi used to be her own character, she had her OWN interesting storylines and good character development of her own that had nothing to do with Deeks or the Densi relationship, we got to learn more about Kensi's past and her trying to avenge her father's death, and we learned about her past engagement with her ex-fiance Jack. We learned so much about her character, and she stood on her own. But ever since Densi became a couple, Kensi's character has been reduced to just "Deeks girlfriend", she hasn't had any sort of development for her own character or interesting storylines in recent seasons, it has all just been about Densi. And it's demeaning to Kensi's character...she used to be depicted as this strong and independent woman who had her own identity, and now she's become just Deeks' girlfriend. Heck, even Deeks had his own internal affairs storyline recently, but what has Kensi got recently? Nothing except the Densi relationship, everything written for Kensi's character recently have all been about her relationship with Deeks, and nothing about her character alone. I used to love Kensi a lot, she was my favorite character in the beginning, but now she has become so boring because her character is all about the Densi relationship now. It's so disappointing and insulting to Kensi's character, to me, the Densi relationship ruined Kensi's character, because the producers and writers have been too preoccupied with Densi in recent seasons and it is at the expense of good writing for Kensi's character.
There are other reasons why I dislike the Densi couple, but these are some of the main reasons. And I'm sure many people in the general public who dislike Densi will agree with my reasons too. Many viewers agree that Densi has been a major problem on this show in recent seasons and their relationship is one of the main reasons that is dragging this show down for many people, hence you see a lot of hate and people complaining about Densi, not just here on this board but on many of the social media sites too.
The only reason I continue to watch NCIS:LA is because of the other characters, I still like Callen, Sam, Hetty, Nell and Eric and I don't mind Granger, so I'm mainly watching this show for them...if it were not for the other characters, I would've given up on this show a long time ago.
1. You see no chemistry, I beg to disagree. I think the relationship they have built up is nice to see on screen. But as it's a highly subjective thing, and everyone has a different opinion, we'll have to agree to disagree.
But as for their relationship being Platonic, their relationship has never been purely platonic, as far back as S3(maybe even S2 but I can't remember), we've known that Deeks had a thing for Kensi that went above and beyond Platonic. She never reciprocated in the beginning, and it was certainly subtle, but it was def there. So his intentions, even if her's weren't, were above that. The chemistry as you call it, was still underlined with his infatuation of her.
2. Talking about work, yes they do talk about their relationship at work, despite the rules Kensi tries to enforce, it but was always going to be inevitable. In RL that would also be the case. If you ever dated someone you work as closely as Kensi and Deeks, it would be impossible for your personal life not to intervene. For the most part these are generally quite light hearted moments, whether it be talking her girlfriends or Deeks mum..they are designed to be a little bit of light relief to break up what is usually a very serious plot line. also by doing it at work, it allows Sam and Callen to pip in with their tuppence worth as well, usually again in a light hearted way.
3. Agreed, she has not had her own story for a little while, hopefully they will fix that, but it's not a reason to hate the couple, it just needs more with her own bit. Fair enough.
Overall, i agree that once the whole coma stuff is sorted out, they should give it a rest with the 2 of them, maybe then they can give some time to sorting out what is going on with Nell and Eric(one way or another). I doubt it though as they will be doing the whole engagement and maybe marriage thing, but do I hate them, no.
Your list had some good points, but IMO saying the whole thing is a disaster or awful is an over reaction.
Hint: Don't try to amplify your point by saying "many viewers agree" or stuff like that. I'm sure as many or maybe even more like them as a couple, but I also cannot make that claim, without detailed polls of viewers. A lot of people make videos dedicated purely to them as a couple..so obviously a lot also like them. You name any TV/Film couple and i'm sure i could find many that love them and many that hate them. So stick to just saying it's your opinion, as that is what it is.
1. Yes the chemistry is subjective, some people think they have good chemistry and some don't, and I don't think they have any romantic or sexual chemistry at all...like I said before, they do have good platonic chemistry, and are great as just good friends and working partners, but as a couple, they do not work and are not believable because of their lack of romantic chemistry, at least that is how I see it. There is a difference between platonic chemistry and romantic chemistry.
2. Yes the Densi relationship was not always platonic, it has been obvious for a long time that they had feelings for each other, but that still does not change the fact that their relationship WAS mainly a platonic one for a while, it was not until they officially started dating that their relationship became more than just platonic. There is a difference between having feelings for each other, and acting on those feelings...Densi may have had romantic feelings for each other long before they actually started dating, but before they officially became a couple, their relationship was platonic. A relationship between 2 people becomes romantic only when they decide to act upon their feelings and become an official couple, and that did not happen with Densi until late into S6. But as I said before, I do not see any romantic chemistry between them, so they are not convincing as a romantic couple to me...they are together as a couple only because that's what is written in the scripts, but that does not necessarily make them a convincing couple on the screen. As I mentioned before, I do think they make great friends and working partners because they have good platonic chemistry, but not as a couple. If I were to think that Densi have good romantic chemistry, then maybe I wouldn't dislike them as a couple as much, but I don't, I think they have no romantic chemistry at all.
3. Everyone has their own reasons to dislike something, and my reasons for disliking Densi is no less valid than anyone else's, I hate the fact that Densi has been taking up so much focus and it is at the expense of good writing for Kensi, and that is also a valid reason for me to hate Densi. Because the Densi relationship is directly affecting the writing for Kensi's character, so it is still a valid reason to use for disliking the Densi relationship.
All in all everyone has different opinions and their own reasons for liking and disliking something, you are entitled to like Densi if you want and I respect your opinion. But I very much dislike Densi and think they do not work and are not a convincing couple to me, and I am entitled to my own opinions too, so let's just agree to disagree.
Eric and Nell are so much more tolerable to me than Densi, they clearly have feelings for each other (though it was more obvious in previous seasons) but they don't harp on their relationship so much nor do they make a big deal out of it, they know when to separate their professional work from their personal lives and feelings for each other so it doesn't disrupt their work...something that Densi clearly does not know how to do.
In comparison Densi are just so forced, unbelievable, awkward and just downright annoying.
I SO agree about Eric & Nell being more tolerable than Densi! It was great to see Densi almost on the back burner--where it belongs--in the premiere (except, of course, they had to somehow get ECO to take off his shirt for all the Densi girls and guys), and now that Kensi's in the hospital, I HOPE viewers don't have to watch maudlin bedside sessions of Deeks mooning over her. I'm sure the writers will make Eric and Nell a couple--when it comes to relationships, so many of these writers seem like college co-eds or frustrated matchmakers--they have this old-fashioned view that EVERY younger character has to "couple up" to be interesting--and then their relationships are so boring! Anyway, when they do that, I hope they can keep the Densi AND Eric-Nell relationships in perspective and remember this isn't a "romance novel" show.
That being said, I do want to see the G (the sexiest guy) & Anna (a good counterpoint) relationship develop--something more adult.
... Anyway, when they do that, I hope they can keep the Densi AND Eric-Nell relationships in perspective and remember this isn't a "romance novel" show.
That being said, I do want to see the G (the sexiest guy) & Anna (a good counterpoint) relationship develop--something more adult.
So you only tolerate relationships that you approve of? Weak move IMHO.
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Not at all. I don't want any personal relationship to dominate--even G & Anna--but I'd like to see that relationship "develop" because I like both those characters. Densi was all over Season 7 (and probably a big reason the ratings dropped because a lot of viewers don't watch ANY NCIS show for romance). And, yes, I do like more adult relationships--instead of ones where partners talk about their sex lives in public as if anyone is interested.
Ok - I admit that NCIS primarily should focus on the core business. On the other hand, it seems that the formula in which personal relationships flower, works and even attracts additional viewers. People like it when they can identify with the characters.
There will always be two camps, I'm afraid. Perhaps ratings drop as well because every episode NCIS-content wise is more of the same? At a certain point people have seen it all.
Most viewers like action plots; look at the success of all the comic book movies--those plots are almost all the same basic plot.
The "personal relationships" bog down the action because they're often not germane to the plot. Besides, the Densi relationship has no tension: more talk about Kensi being messy. Who cares? And the idea that other women (Talia) are automatically attracted to Deeks? With G and Sam on the same team? Not likely. When the action bogs down, ratings drop (you can see it in the statistics).
And then, when things become too repetitive, viewers leave.
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Deeks is the only "free" boy; Sam is married and Callen not really open to a relationship. Didn't GRanger once had an old flame? (Who was killed if I remember correctly) Anyway, let's move on to the next subject.
The problem with the "Densi" relationship is that it bogs the story down. Relationships are good if they're done right and add to the story; too often the "Densi" stuff was just stupid and filler (the "box"--who cared?).
And Deeks hasn't been a "free" boy for several seasons, so that's just nonsense. There's nothing wrong with a married character--unless you think that all marriages are dull and boring. And why think Callen's not open to a relationship? He seems to be pretty interested in Anna and vice versa--and that has the potential to be very complicated and funny with Arkady!
Do you actually watch the entire show or just the scenes with Deeks?
Ok Anna - it's about time he showed some interest. But I'm not looking forward to it. I see dark clouds in the future - international complications probably - might be a story line to your liking. Hooking up with a married character doesn't seem very appropriate, if you ask me. Dead end street for the flirting girls then
Movies are a different animal. You can get away with total action when it's confined to a 2hr movie and nothing else, but 40 minutes, week after week, and it's extremely dull and most do not want it. There needs to be something else.
Even 2 hours straight of action is boring. TV shows do need something else--and relationships work--but I prefer quality to quantity (a little of something that's good versus a lot of something that's just stupid), and too often the "Densi" plot is just silly and inane.
Agree! I think one of the MOST annoying things about Deeks is that he's such an exhibitionist--he always seems to want to be the center of anyone's attention (I guess that's why he's always so LOUD 🔊)! This isn't true about Kensi; she's much more low key and discreet. 😊