Odd that Deeks thinks Kensi needs to quit her job as an NCIS agent in order to be an "amazing mom." Hmmm, guess all those moms currently serving in the military and/or law enforcement just aren't "amazing" in Deeks' eyes. 😦
shareActually, what he meant that is complicated two people raise a family in their working conditions, besides being dangerous, long hours doesn’t help to get home at night to put their child to bed. Most of the time when a woman / man serving in the military or law enforcement always have a partner at home with a constant presence to take care of the children. Sam’s Wife stopped being agent for a few years to raise their children, Tony quits NCIS for the same reason. Deeks was at least decent and suggested that the two step out.
He actually said that they’re bad mother? I don’t remember that.
Nice justification but Deeks is going to also quit--not like Sam who continues as an NCIS agent (listen to the conversation again). Regarding Tony, duh--Ziva's dead--there's no comparison between the two situations.
shareFirst off, there’s not need to call for names. But It wasn’t what I wrote? That Deeks suggests that BOTH quit NCIS/LAPD to build a family?
Tony quits NCIS to take care of his daughter, because he knew he couldn’t be the best father possible if he kept giving his everything to the agency, of course Ziva’s dead helped him make that decision, but Tony had said before that he couldn’t balance family and work and he always chose work, I think even if Ziva was alive and he found that he had a daughter, I think he would make the same decision.
What I was saying is that I understand why Deeks was saying and why he suggested to both quits work as law enforcement if they want to build a family, makes sense. I just used Tony and Sam as an example in NCIS’ world.
Then according to your logic, Sam hasn't done very well as a father because he continued as an NCIS agent while his children were growing up. Sam's children really have suffered terribly because he stayed with NCIS. You can't have it both ways. Or maybe it's just Kensi who should give up her job? What I hear is a guy telling his girlfriend that she should consider quitting her career (which she says is who she is) if she wants to be an amazing mom as if these two are somehow incompatible--which suggests that if she doesn't quit her career, she won't be able to be an amazing mom. Hard to picture Kensi telling Deeks to quit his job in order to be an amazing father. That's just a poor way to begin a discussion about having children. And even bringing in Tony's situation is just stupid: I think even if Ziva was alive and he found that he had a daughter, I think he would make the same decision. What you "think"--just like what I "think"--is irrelevant because it's not what happened or what the characters did. Based on Deeks's conversations and past actions (reading Kensi's journal without permission, cleaning her desk, telling Nell what to say when she cuffs a suspect--something Callen or Sam have never done), Deeks acts like a control freak when it comes to women.
shareAnalyze a character also means that sometimes you make assumptions based on the given information, and of course is that I THINK, I’m giving my opinion, some people may disagree or not, as my thought of Tony's because throughout his journey on NCIS since the early seasons it gives the indications that he would eventually quits NCIS to create a family. but this it's not about him.
I never said that Sam is a bad father, but let's be honest, for him to be a good father and a good agent, his wife had to put a pause in her career.
Kensi & Deeks are dating and it's been a few episodes that are talking about marriage and children, he didn’t demand anything, they’re talking about what would be best for them as couple and a family, they’re trying to find a ground for their relationship, how things will be in the future, the problem is not a woman having a career and raised a children and he didn’t meant that is a problem or that Kensi would be a bad mother if she decide to stay, but if BOTH decide to stay, the problem is their line of work. Can you really imagine a scenario where Kensi & Deeks continue working the way they work and be able to raising a child? Deeks said he's willing to quit work with her, he wasn’t a caveman demand that she had to quit work to create a family and he continued to work to provide to them.
In Sam’s case both most likely agreed (I have to assume here because nothing was ever shown) as a couple that the best way has to her quit her job, And it's okay, it was a decision between the couple. We are not talked about a normal scenario here, but about federal agents that they're almost like a spies.
You're obviously a Deeks lover, and it's impossible for his fans to ever admit he's imperfect--they always have an excuse for what he says and what he does. It's okay; some people just love living in the "old days" when men told women what to do--especially if the men were "cute."
shareYou yourself said it when analyzing a character: "based on the given information." Does Kensi suggest Deeks quit? No. He wants to quit, and HE suggests SHE quit. See the difference? Maybe it's difficult to recognize the subtlety of the language because English isn't your first language (that's not being disrespectful--sometimes things are lost in translation). Even after she told him that being an NCIS agent is who she is, he still suggests she give up her job--as though being a mom and being his wife and doing a job that she enjoys less (or no job at all) should be satisfying enough for her. If Deeks wants to quit, Kensi isn't going to stop him; I doubt she cares much about what he chooses to do as a career as long as it isn't illegal. That's called respecting your partner's independence. If Deeks respected Kensi's independence--because she actually IS an individual BEFORE being his girlfriend--then he would realize how important her career is to her. I don't have to imagine a scenario where both continue working in law enforcement BECAUSE Deeks has already said he's ready to quit. Then let him quit and let Kensi keep her job. This would be the same arrangement Sam and his wife had, except Kensi would be working for NCIS. No difference.
shareWhat I mean is that it's not so absurd a couple talk about the next step in a relationship, what each other expects from the relationship before getting married or having children. And that conversation in the car was about that... they talked about their options. Deeks is not pressed Kensi to make a choice based of what he wants or only about what he needs. Kensi said she's not ready and she being an agent is who she is, the conversation ended there. If he keeps pressed on the subject and then it's a jerk moves.
If Deeks stay home and Kensi to continue working is also an option, but the couple needs to talk about all the options first. My defense to the character is some people (not just here) wanting to rip his throat for daring to only suggest this option. He didn't mean that it's impossible to a woman having a career and raised a family, they're talking about their situations that both have a job requiring so much of them.
You should watch the scene again because you're wrong. AFTER Kensi says being an NCIS agent is who she is, Deeks STILL suggests that she stay home all day. He's not listening to her. Maybe that sounds like a conversation to you; to me it sounds as if he's trying to pressure her, convince her to do what he wants. She has to come out and tell him TWICE that she's not ready for kids. Duh.
shareDildo is so insecure when it comes to women, especially Kensi. He acts like a baby when she's trying to do her job. You can be an amazing Mom/Dad no matter what you do for a living. I know a lot of husband and wife couples who are in military and local and federal government law enforcement. You make it work! And yes dicky definitely has control issues.
shareAgree that moms and dads can do ANY (legal) job and still be "amazing." And Deeks does seem to have control issues with women (always in Kensi's stuff--reading her journal, cleaning her desk and not letting her give HER business card to the masseuse--insecure, are we?--and now telling Nell what to say). Just because it's part of his "character" doesn't make it funny or less annoying.
shareI think it's very obvious that Deeks is a jealous control freak...I wish Deeks is the mole because then they could get rid of his ass from the show...but sadly I don't think that would happen.
shareI seriously think he's the mole for a couple of reasons: he had no loyalty to NCIS when he started, he's never become an NCIS agent (even though Hetty gave him the paperwork), his HL7 test indicated that he wanted to "get back" at the LAPD for something in the past--I think he became the mole to embarrass the LAPD, and he's never been put in danger by the mole. THEN he fell in love with Kensi and that's why he wants to quit so bad now--because he doesn't want her to find out he's the mole because she LOVES NCIS and she won't marry him. FINALLY, a little drama for Densi!! 👏
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