Such BS... Spoilers


This may be the worst ep ever..I watch NCIS LA and H50 for the chase scenes and lack of complicated story line.. This ep makes no sense in a semi real world.. This is comic book stuff. Granger stabbed in custody.. Asst director shot surround by SWAT.. Random dead bodies in cars and garages.. Fed agents arresting Fed agents using probably illegal searches. No phone calls no lawyers..This is total fantasy.. But to treat the story seriously, I really really hate it when the bad guys know a lot more than the good guys and seem to read the next day's script and act accordingly .. This may be a WWF script where the villiian wins all rounds except the last one..I know the writers think this is a very clever plot..way too clever for me..pls back to car chases!!

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You mean WWE..lol

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Started out as WWF in the last century.

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And World Wildlife Fund wasn't happy. lol

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I like the change of pace and that Gemmill is doing something different this season. You still have GTA.

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What I don't get is why did Deeks stand around in the lobby? If he's a cop, why would he hang out in the area for the general public? That didn't make sense. I mean, it's like a doctor who did work at another hospital and coming back to his own hospital and waiting in reception.

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that's a great point

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I missed the first part of the episode, but when I read a recap of it, I heard about the drugs, bombs, and dead bodies being found in agents' homes or car trunks.... I thought yeah, this sounds really stupid. Did an amateur thriller-writer pen this episode? Supposedly these agents live super-secret lives, with no-one knowing who they are, where they live, etc. (I suppose that fact is supposed to impress us with the fact that someone within the government is doing the framing, but it's really a bunch of OVERKILL, like trying to kill a fly with a cannon.)

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Disagree. In Sirens, Callen said the folks after them probably already know where they work and maybe where they live, so none of this seemed far fetched to me. If this a coordinated effort, then this is exactly what could happen. What better way to disrupt the OSP than to arrest all their agents on the same day? I mean, who's left to conduct an investigation?

But now that someone mentioned the scene in the police station, that doesn't ring true to me, either. Why would Deeks hang around the reception area? He's a cop, a detective, and a liaison to a federal agency and also a lawyer. Given his position, his knowledge of procedures, and his knowledge of the law, he would just walk back and find Granger himself. That was the weakest scene for me, and I don't understand why they couldn't let Deeks find Granger and then arrest him.

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He could say he's Granger's lawyer

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Wow, I hadn't thought of that, but that's a good one. What happened to thinking quick on his feet, writers?

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whole episode had people acting dumb

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I did like Sam asking for Talia and Callen telling the ATF moron to let him go and Callen would do his job and the moron's. I expected Deeks to jump the cop who opened the door. I mean, after all, he's already in custody. From the previews looks like Callen's getting pissed. lol

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Yeah. I hope the reveal is something shocking. I always find it strange the cops come after the drugged person wakes up and never before

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I generally enjoyed the episode, but it did feel a bit fantastical in places. Of course you have to suspend your disbelief with tv shows, nothing is 100% plausible, but still, things should ring true within the established context. And scenes like Deeks in the waiting room was ill thought out. He has too much pull and knowledge to be thwarted by a cop at reception. In S3 he broke into his lieutenant's office and stole info off a laptop. Now he can't get past reception.

When you look at the writer's credits, she has little experience and almost none in the thriller/crime genre, so it's not wrong to say it was somewhat amateurish. Generally I always think they should look to bring in writers who have an understanding of the genre. Frank Military is one of the show's best. Without knowing much about him, I can tell he has a real love and understanding of all the genres; thriller, crime, spy, action, military etc.

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It was amateurish, but Deeks has NO pull with LAPD--they can't stand him (they actually should love everybody at NCIS since he's now over at that office annoying the hell out of everyone). 

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I personally liked the episode.

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I liked the episode, too, but I do think the Deeks scenes were the weakest for the reasons pointed out.

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Yeah he should've walked to the back which he has access to and demanded to see his client. And demanded his union rep when being questioned.

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Another good point. As a union person I should have caught that.

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Except being a police officer, wouldn't it be a little too risky to pretend to be a lawyer in a police station in a murder case? He could lose his badge. Yes, I know they've done riskier, fantastical stuff.

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it's not pretend Deeks is a legitimate lawyer who passed the bar.

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Yea, he mentions that he actually passed the bar and is a lawyer quite often.

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I agree, I enjoyed the ep too...and it's good to finally have Kensi back working in the field with everyone else.

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