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posted 12 years ago by prelude_e_n_i_g_m_a
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Everyones question: Is that Elly in the morgue at the end?

If the answers yes, it has to be that she killed herself by drowning? When the cops get there to investigate after they save the boy, they say any body will wash up on shore by morning. THIS IS IMPORTANT. Unless I'm wrong, at least a couple days go by before they end up at the morgue at the end of the movie. For that time to lapse, she had to be overcome with guilt and killed herself within a day or two of leaving the boy to die in the water. If she killed herself, she must of chose drowning to make it look like she tried to save the boy. Drowning isn't a fun dead to go through I'm guessing. I don't think she'd put herself through that just to make herself look better after death.

My guess is that it isn't her in the morgue. The blank look on the fiancés face is because he still knows he lost her forever. He knows that she bailed on everyone and he won't see her again... same as her being dead really. He doesn't tell the "friends" outside anything because they're all liars and they are partly guilty for what happened... they don't deserve to know anything, they're strangers for god sake.

[–] ibbi 12 years ago

The fact that the movie itself doesn't explicitly state anything means that your interpretation is certainly viable, but I disagree. For a start I certainly do think that is her in the morgue. There is an interview on the DVD where Farhadi basically says, she's dead, her suffering is over. Sepideh has to live with the consequences. How she dies is certainly up for debate, given the reasons you state, but I don't think that is especially important.

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[–] prelude_e_n_i_g_m_a 12 years ago

Cool. I have the dvd, I'll watch the interview you're talking about.
I agree, it probably doesn't matter how she died in a broad sense, but the filmmaker would still want a logical trail to that end I believe. Why did it take days for her body to wash up? Or do you think she drowned herself later on? Or do you think she committed suicide and fell into the water or something like that? I think a movie like this needs to have more of a logic backup than something really abstract. I put this movie in a mystery class that needs to have a logic paper trail, more so than a Lynch or Malick film or something really abstract.

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[–] ppesto123 9 years ago

I thought the same thing.

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[–] zee944 9 years ago

No, that's not the way we've seen her last time. She grew sad while flying the kite and wanted to go.

[–] zee944 9 years ago

This is simply wrong.

As far as filmmaking goes, if it wasn't Elly, there would be more clues about it in the movie.

Also, if it wasn't Elly, the fiance wouldn't react with crying. (Unless something else is implied too, but I said there were no more clues as far as I noticed.)

And third, if it wasn't Elly, then the whole movie wouldn't make sense. Nothing would be resolved. It still feels a little unfinished with Elly's death, now without it, it would really be just a pointless art movie.

[–] SteverB 8 years ago

If she didn't die, it wouldn't make it a pointless art movie at all. If that wasn't her in the morgue -- and I'm about 50/50 on that -- then we're left to wonder where she went. She was in a relationship she didn't want to be in and was even willing to sully her honor to get out of it by deciding to meet Ahmed. If that wasn't her in the morgue, the fiance could have cried just the same because he would have known that she didn't want to be with him and ran away and this drowned woman in the morgue was a stranger.

On the other hand, it would be awfully convenient for Elly if a drowned woman was found on the shore at the same time she decided to run away, so again, I'm 50/50.

Either way, this film was fascinating -- 10/10.

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[–] zee944 8 years ago

then we're left to wonder where she went.

...making it a pointless art movie.

[–] CoSMiGoNoN (77) 7 years ago

Of course it's her, unless her long lost twin happen to drown that same day. Anything else is just the type of mental masturbation a lot of imdb users seem to enjoy when trying to find a hidden meaning to any movie that only exists in their head.