why on earth weren't their any subtitles in this movie... i read the other comments that the guys were speaking crap polish, but thats irrelevant, you can speak gibberish and put in subtitles WHATEVER he's supposed to be saying... that would have made the movie a lot more coherent.
overall though, not a terrible movie.
There's no subtitles because we're supposed to be just as confused as the characters, so we feel what they're feeling. It's a good decision.
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I followed the movie with subtitles and, yes, they helped me throughout the movie: I think they are compulsory if a good part of it is not in your original language
shareYou're not supposed to know what they're saying. You're not supposed to know more than what the characters know.
sharethats the point, you think there one thing and you find out its another. subs would spoil it
shareSame as in "... and soon the darkness"
shareAnd the start of The Thing (the John Carpenter original anyway, haven't seen the remake).
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The John Carpenter one (1982) is the remake, the original came out in 1951. The new one (2011) is a prequel.
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shareWe old people remember useless snippets like that! ;0)
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We seem to be getting away from the point.
Yes, I can understand the use of confusion in the first few secenes, but to continue this into the rest of the film just made it all the more unwatchable. I could hardly understand the demon at the end of the film either, and definitely came away from the film very disappointed.
According to the director's commentary, that's Carpenter's brother or some other relative playing the Norwegian, and he's speaking gibberish he made up, not actual Norwegian.
And yes, 'The Thing from Another World' (one of the very best 50s scifi movies) was the first based on the novel 'Who Goes There' although Caprenter's supposedly stays closer to the book (the 'thing' in the 50's version is not a shape shifter, but an intelligent, humanoid plant).
I'm Polish so I understood everything but I do have to agree. I think not having the subtitles, it killed the final reveal because if you understood the chants...at the end they would make sense. However, I bet those chants during sacrifice were eerily creepy without knowing the words. My VOD offers captions, so maybe look into that next time.
shareso knowing Polish spoils the ending? Even so, I disagree with the who said "you think they are one thing, and they are another". Because I started off thinking the village was full of dicks. And when it ended I still thought that. movie should have ended with the guy (marcus or whatever) shooting the remaining cultists and saving his girlfriend. then she slaughters everyone else in the village and they go home. happy ending.
sharedude, you missed the point of the movie. They aren't a cult, they are the watchers of a evil that can't be stopped. They tried to save them from going into the fog. They just wanted to kill the cursed girls after they went into the fog anyways. They weren't cruel or anything, they had to do what must be done, and that's why the guy killed his own girlfriend in the end, and why they let him go. because he knew what must be done. They must live in the village to protect the statue from outsiders, or I mean the other way around.
And they weren't in a cult, because they were obviously against the demon, which is a christian idea. So they are most likely a odd sect of Christians. The demon, I believe, is Satan himself trying to break free from his stone prison.
I can't believe you didn't get any of this.
I understand the reasoning here but why did the priests cut at the girl's wrists and ankles? I get the stigmata aspect of it, as well as maybe it helped bring out the demon spirit through the bloodshed instead of it running loose, but the fact that they did that shows some evil intentions, even the way Marcus smirks at one point while they cut her kind of aids this fact. I don't know there is something off about it, kind of confusing.
shareMarcus didnt even get to the sacrifice chamber until after the girl has her wrists cut, all he saw was her dying body after they bashed the spike mask in. I think that maybe, in light of what's revealed at the end, the men might've cut her wrists out of hatred for the demon they knew she would invariably become, not really seeing her for the innocent girl she still was. Just a thought. Either that or some of them start to relish their sacred duty a little too much.
"I've got a bad feeling about this..."
I think it was to weaken her in case she goes full on possessed while they're doing it so she couldn't fight them off and escape. They cut the tendons on her feet so she wouldn't be able to walk or use her feet, I don't think there as any malice in it at all, it just looked really brutal.
shareI don't need to know what they are saying. It adds to the overall fun not knowing everything!. Let me put it this way. IF YOU WERE THERE you wouldn't know what they were saying in their own language. You (and I) would be just like those in the movie. So that is probably why the movie makers didn't add the subs for those moments. So as to try and make the viewer be like the visitors to the village to identify with those in the situation at the time. Be all like "what the hell are they saying. what are they planning for us" sort of thing.
"Fear is the key - to what you want to be."
That puts us ib the shoes of characters, the important polish plot things like when they ask the little boy for the key and boy replies in english and such important scenarios are in english, not knowing what they speak heighten the suspense...
Why so Serious ?
I think the main reason was so it didn't spoil the fact these people were not mindlessly killing people. That instead they were killing demons. I figured this out when they separated the BF and the girls. I'm sure there are a lot of people who didn't pick this up till it was explained, like my GF.
I'm fine with not having subtitles but I thought that there was just to much dialog in a foreign language to not have them. 10% in a different language without them is pushing it, but this film had about 30%+ of the dialog that most people would not understand. Might as well been a silent film. The dialog ended up being pointless.
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