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Have the filmmakers never been cold before in their lives?


Seriously, seeing these people freezing half to death and just... sitting there completely pulled me out of this movie. Yes, the pack of man-eating wolves that roam the ski hill and the razor-sharp cable cords are unfathomably dumb, but I could get over it as creative license if the actual characters acted like... human beings at any point. When you get cold, you don't just sit there with your coat half-open and your hand out. You curl up, tuck your arms into your coat, bury your face, bring your knees up and jam those under your coat too, if they fit. It's not even a matter of thinking rationally, it's just instinct.

Such a shame seeing a potentially fun concept, great dramatic moments, and some surpringly good performances from everyone involved wasted on such a shoddy film. Liberties are one thing, but again, the characters have to actually act like people to get me to care.

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I didn't understand that either.

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Did you know that the weather was actually severely cold, and the actors WERE behaving instinctively?

Geez, quit bitching and enjoy the awesome movie.


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You can't possibly believe what you wrote.

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wtf are you on about?? seriously? i was just about to write what he wrote but he beat me to it...

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I never understood what happened to one of her gloves - maybe she flung the gloves at the tractor or something?

I also thought that her and Joe would have stayed cuddled up for body heat regardless of what their relationship was.

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She dropped the glove when she took it off to light a cigarette. More proof that smoking kills!

Seriously, though, I also thought they didn't work very hard to keep themselves warm. For example, I'm pretty sure Lynch's coat had a hood that he never pulled up. And didn't Parker have a scarf she could have wrapped around her face?

Anyway, I question whether they could have survived two nights of exposure no matter how hard they tried to keep warm. People freeze to death in just one night of cold all the time.

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She dropped the glove when she took it off to light a cigarette. More proof that smoking kills!


But she lived... the OTHERS didn't drop their gloves while smoking and died. Id say thats proof that being careless while smoking SAVES lives!

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That was my thought exactly. If they'd done that, instead of either pouting or talking about things that were a lot less vital than their survival, they'd both have been in much better shape. Body heat was the one thing they needed the most.

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I was thinking the same thing!


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You'd be surprised what people do when freezing to death.

During the advanced stages of hypothermia, there's a thing called ''paradoxical undressing'' where the victim may start removing their clothing.

Quote from wiki:

Paradoxical Undressing

Twenty to fifty percent of hypothermia deaths are associated with paradoxical undressing. This typically occurs during moderate to severe hypothermia, as the person becomes disoriented, confused, and combative. They may begin discarding their clothing, which, in turn, increases the rate of heat loss.

Rescuers who are trained in mountain survival techniques are taught to expect this; however, some may assume incorrectly that urban victims of hypothermia have been subjected to a sexual assault.
One explanation for the effect is a cold-induced malfunction of the hypothalamus, the part of the brain that regulates body temperature. Another explanation is that the muscles contracting peripheral blood vessels become exhausted (known as a loss of vasomotor tone) and relax, leading to a sudden surge of blood (and heat) to the extremities, fooling the person into feeling overheated.






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some may assume incorrectly that urban victims of hypothermia have been subjected to a sexual assault.

Is urban a new word for "black" or "minority"? And why would they think they've been sexually assaulted?

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Seriously, seeing these people freezing half to death and just... sitting there completely pulled me out of this movie. Yes, the pack of man-eating wolves that roam the ski hill and the razor-sharp cable cords are unfathomably dumb, but I could get over it as creative license if the actual characters acted like... human beings at any point. When you get cold, you don't just sit there with your coat half-open and your hand out. You curl up, tuck your arms into your coat, bury your face, bring your knees up and jam those under your coat too, if they fit. It's not even a matter of thinking rationally, it's just instinct.

Such a shame seeing a potentially fun concept, great dramatic moments, and some surpringly good performances from everyone involved wasted on such a shoddy film. Liberties are one thing, but again, the characters have to actually act like people to get me to care.

I've lived on some of the coldest parts on the mainland US: Montana, the Dakotas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan. And I didn't find the behavior in this movie unrealistic.

You said, "When you get cold, you don't just sit there with your coat half-open and your hand out. You curl up, tuck your arms into your coat, bury your face, bring your knees up and jam those under your coat too, if they fit."

How are you supposed to do all that when you're on a ski lift? Are you seriously suggesting they curl their knees up while stuck on a ski lift? Maybe you also suggest they drink hot cocoa and bundle up with extra thick blankets too. Your suggestions are more unrealistic than the movie.

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Both of them had zip up hoods that would have covered their faces up and kept cold air from pouring in from above, but neither one bothered to pull the zipper up.

I've been on ski lifts that have to stop on days where it is about zero with a 20-30 mph wind blowing. It takes about ten seconds for me zip the front of my ski coat all the way to the top and duck my face into it for maximum coverage.

I also like how she held onto the bar with her bare hand while sleeping. Once she lost her glove that hand would have never come out of her pocket for more than a few seconds.

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She may have had her hand in her pocket when she fell asleep. Then while sleeping, she might have moved her hand, without her knowing.

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No, she may not have. Dude, do you really believe this? We would not have survived as species if our bodies did *beep* like that. We would be long extinct.

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In reality, yes, this is what any sane person would do. But in a movie, the actors' facial expressions and dialogue are critical, and zipping up to cover their faces makes those impossible to express. Would you rather watch three people mumble through a scarf for and hour? Probably not.

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Would you rather watch three people mumble through a scarf for and hour? Probably not.


That is hilarious lmao!!

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The fact that you never see the cold breath coming out of their mouths took me right out of the film. Maybe if they were actually in cold conditions, they would have tried to bundle up more and I would have taken the film more seriously.

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Well, then you missed an opportunity to enjoy the film. It was not filmed on a sound stage and/or in warm conditions; it was actually filmed at a real ski resort in the real cold. The trivia section has a tidbit on their breaths and how they ARE seen when it's early in the night for the shooting, while their body temps are still normal, and that the visible breath disappeared as their body temps dropped during the night. You likely don't live or have visited anywhere cold, to be unaware of this, but it's a normal occurrence.

So it appears you didn't take the movie seriously for an entirely illegitimate reason--what a shame.


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ya know, i didn't mind this movie, not a favorite, but i've seen worse, but the whole time i wanted to scream "zip your *beep* coat up dumbass!" i mean you're afraid of getting frostbite on your face? well then do something about it besides not touching it, how about we try and cover our faces so they're not so exposed? oh well.


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Yeah, I could not take that part seriously...I'm from Minnesota, I know cold! It annoyed me so much that they did not zip their coats over their chins and noses or pull their hands into their coats. I know that for the sake of the film, they couldn't hide their faces because it would be hard to hear their lines, but it was still annoying.

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