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Another Dance our way out of poverty movie


Kind of a crummy message to send to poor community’s, no minority has ever danced their way out of poverty. This movie lies to us.

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They have to pull themselves up by the bootstraps, right?

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Dancing never put food on the table, these kids need to be studying, not dancing in the street.

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Ok, boomer.

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Dancing does indeed put food on the table if you do it professionally.

But dancers don't let themselves eat it.

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You mean like stripping? The odds of becoming a professional dancer and making a career from it are very remote, it’s borderline stupid to even attempt it.

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Do you like to squash people's dreams in person, or just on the internet?

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Marginalized people need to be responsible, do their homework, and make better decisions in life than the privileged. Dancing isn’t responsible, it’s something children do to pass the time.

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You've never talked to a poor person, have you. Or at least, you've never taken them seriously.

Well you're full of shit, because the arts have value to rich kids, middle-class kids, and poor kids alike. There should be arts education in all schools and not just fucking sports, the arts help children develop the observational and critical thinking skills which you seem to lack, and help children discover their physical and intellectual talents, learn cooperation and other people's point of view, develop interpersonal skills, emotional intelligence, etc. Dance classes specifically can help children develop healthy bodies, teamwork, how to keep their shit together in front of an audience, healthy coping skills like putting feelings into art, self-esteem, etc. And specific to poor kids, the arts could give poor kids a class they might actually like, a reason to come to school and not drop out.

So fuck off.

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Well put. Just because 99% of people who choose to be artistic won't become rich and famous from it, doesn't mean it has no merit.

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They’ll find work — but mostly in an unrelated fields where their preparations are of little use. The problem is the same for kids who dream of becoming professional athletes — almost all will fail. I think it would be better for the students and society if more fine arts and humanities majors were encouraged to pursue their interests as extracurricular activities/hobbies but learn more practical, marketable skills in college.

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What problem are you really trying to solve? How many people have you met who have regret about following their dreams or passions? I'd say most would feel the opposite.

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Poverty/low income/burdensome college debt due to a lack of marketable skills.

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I never said burn down the school of arts, but kids need to be taught that those are hobbies and not careers. My neighbor is fascinated by ghosts, but he doesn’t quit his job in finance to become a ghostbuster. You sound like you have some growing up to do.

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We don't have to burn down schools of the arts, because arts programs are pretty much gone from public schools, and the benefits of learning about the arts are only available to kids whose families can afford to send them to private schools. So no need to worry about poor kids getting ideas that you consider to be above their station.

Happy?

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Rich people can afford to waist their lives dancing, poor people need to be responsible and hit the books or else they will continue to be poor. This isn’t rocket science, stop trying to keep minorities poor just because you want them to dance.

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There are also a lot of scholarships out there for the arts. And let's be honest, even if they do study, go to college, get a degree, the chances of them getting that great job are still less than someone with the same degree and rich parents. So yeah. Let these fictional characters sing and dance.

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This isn’t empowering young minorities, it’s rotting their brains. How about a film that teaches them about responsibility and the importance of studying. Now that’s something we can all get behind.

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Yeah...films don't always need to inspire, they can just entertain.

My point is that the importance of studying isn't all you are cracking it up to be. Not to mention the cost of college in the US, I mean that's insane, so affording the education that will get you those fancy jobs is unattainable. Then, like I mentioned, those really good jobs don't just go to anyone with the proper degree. They go to those who grew up in the right neighbourhood, went to the proper prep schools and who have someone on the inside.

Have you even seen the movie?

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Jobs go to those who grew up in the right neighborhood? What in Gods name are you talking about?

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I'm talking about those jobs that we're all told we will get if we get a degree and work hard in school. Those jobs. There is so much competition for those jobs that they go to those who already have connections, or as well as uni, they went to the right prep schools as well, summered with the right people, were in the right fraternities.

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I'm serious. Have you watched the movie or even know what the story is about?

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I’m sorry, are you really going to interrogate me about this? It’s none of your business.

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Okay, so number one you are talking about the movie, on a movie chat board, so asking you if you have seen the movie which you have made a post about does really kind of make it my business so I know how to actually respond to you.

If you had seen the movie, or known the story of the musical, you would know that the singing and the dancing is the method of the story telling, not the plot of the story. You are also going on about getting these kids to study and go to school. Yet, if you had watched the movie you would know that one of the characters is a student at Stanford, and is the pride of the neighbourhood as she made it out. Yet, because she had to work two jobs while she was at school just to afford tuition and rent, her grades weren't great and she lost her scholarship and is dropping out. So again, just studying hard and getting scholarships doesn't guarantee anything either.

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J-lo did it

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J-Lo sings and acts, much more impressive than just dancing.

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