CGI or real Sharks?


Just wondering...

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its real. They just mixed the footage. :-)

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Mixed the footage? as in they filmed real sharks as well?

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Grasshopper, this is an Australian movie. We do not need Hollywood boffins to create illusions in our movies. We pride ourselves on quality rather than quantity.

Furthermore they used real sharks in the movie. However Great White sharks are not found that far north as they prefer colder waters. The footage of the Great White shark was filmed in South Australia but the footage was incorporated into the movie to give the illusion that the shark was actually in Queensland.

Watch the end credits carefully and you will see a credit for Calypso Star Charters in Port Lincoln, South Australia. No doubt this is where the footage of the Great White came from.



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"Grasshopper, this is an Australian movie. We do not need Hollywood boffins to create illusions in our movies. We pride ourselves on quality rather than quantity."

<sarcasm>
Haha but of course!
Australia is known for it's high quality contributions to the world of cinema.
The USA on the other hand are envious and wish we could do as well.</sarcasm>

You're right! We can't do as well, we can do BETTER.
And we did.
35 years ago.
It was called Jaws.

Don't kid yourself Cybagirl, Australia doesn't do special effects not because they pride themselves in quality, it's because they don't have the money OR the talent to do it properly. And what are you talking about anyway? "Quality over quantity?" Quantity of WHAT??
Australia could never make a movie like Avatar. You wouldn't even know how.

Check out this movie sometime called "Not Quite Hollywood"
It's a documentary all about how crappy Australian cinema is Lol

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I think I know what she's trying to say. It's got nothing to do with talent. If you want CGI and can afford it, you can find qualified people to pay for that job. If not from Australia then from somewhere else.

The thing with Hollywood movie is that even if they can't afford it or get proper talent for the job, they still often decide to use CGI and then it gets bad and ruins any realism and immersion you might otherwise have had.

If you can't do it convincingly then don't. That's what Hollywood should learn. This point especially true for low budget films which I think this movie qualifies as.

I didn't like Avatar because the plot wasn't good, the military behaved tremendously stupid and I found the overly long National Geographic nature documentary on blue cat people to be pretty boring. So, while a technological marvel in movie making it ended up being a not so good movie. In my opinion.

There have been some very good Aussie movies. So maybe you should stop generalizing?

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i would prefer a aussie movie over avatar. that was a piece of *beep*
and i also agree, SO many hollywood movies go for CGI and it just looks rediculous and sooo fake.
Also some australian movies are among my favorites ever, so dont speak for everyone.


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Stop destroying movies with CGI

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Simmer down now. Looks to me like it was just a little sarcasm.

Plus, The Proposition was the *beep*

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Wow, what an ass. We have no talent? lol you gotta be trollin'

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Ah haileybaron, you made me laugh.

You're putting down the talent and quality of Australians, and yet both movies you love heavily involve Aussies.

Firstly Jaws - While we love Bruce, he is obviously fake. The amazing 'real footage' is thanks to, you guessed it, AUSTRALIANS. Ron and Valery Taylor, two shark experts that Speilberg especially asked for to get supreme real Great White Shark footage.

Next Avatar - Sam Worthington, where's he from again? Oh yeah, AUSTRALIA!
Neil Huxley, the Art Director for Avatar. All of his study/training was completed at University in Melbourne, AUSTRALIA.

Please think next time before you boast USA - especially when you are really shouting Aussie, Aussie Aussie!! Thanks for the vote of confidence though:)

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"Check out this movie sometime called "Not Quite Hollywood"
It's a documentary all about how crappy Australian cinema is Lol"

No it's not. Not at all. It's a documentary about the exploitation film scene in Australia. Were you not paying attention when you watched it?

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Actually there is CGI in The Reef! The vast majority is real sharks though but still... you actually thought they'd get a great white shark to leap out of the water next to four people for a movie? lol

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Actually there is no CGI in the reef. The Shark you mention was real footage where it lunged out of the water. It was then placed into the scene.
The movie was nothing like Jaws,it was more like open water. Big shark, real shark. Scary thing is there are a lot bigger than that here in Australia.If I was in that situation there is absolutely no way I would get into the water. I'd take my chances on the boat.If it drifts out to sea it may put you in a flight path.
As for the dinghy on the back of the boat. Once it sprung the leak it was not in any more scenes.
I liked the movie. The thought of being in their situation terrified me.Didn't go much on the end.

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anti-CGI snobs? What the heck is wrong with CGI lol

Creating CGI seems quite a bit more difficult and creative than finding some stock footage that someone else shot and putting it in your film

anyway, they did a good job imo. This was a terrific movie

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nothing is wrong with it. DO it well and it's awesome. but so many put in half-assed work which looks so bad they might as well do it as they did in the earlier days.

Personally I think Starship Troopers and Jurassic Park, the first one did these things awesome with their choices for SFX.

I'm a tech nerd and love CGI when done well, I like the space battle in Serenity. I do not like the space battles in Star Trek Enterprise because of it's poor CGI, but they used more models in the massive Star Trek DS9 battles and it looks awesome! Take another example: as awesome as the battles in Babylon 5 are, they can't compare with DS9's quality.

Battlestar Galactica (the new one) did the CGI battles awesome, as I think Stargate Atlantis did and even the worthless series Stargate Universe.

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I think all the underwater shots were of real GW sharks. A few different ones too, which is quite annoying. Some where pretty small others large and with different markings.

I suppose you can't expect the same shark to stay around long enough to get all the shots.

There was CGI too during some of the attacks (the one on the float being the most obvious)

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Black Water director Nerlich (also an fx boffin) worked out the best way to get actors and predators together was blue screen the actors against live animals, adamant that CGI crocs in that film would never work to his satisfaction (see dvd extras). Traucki has told his CGI guys to do the same on The Reef, using the ocean as a natural blue screen. It worked okay though they had good luck with animal performances on the earlier film, which had some pretty impressive attack scenes.

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I thought the blending of human and shark elements was exceptional. In fact, he nailed the special effects in both this and black water. I reckon Hollywood could take a leaf out of this book, instead of relying on CGI all the time.

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The predator effects for this movie I thought was far better than black water. I thought the shark scenes were very realistic/covincing.

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In fact Hollywood long ago learnt to take advantage of Australia's ingenuity. Several of the scenes in Jaws (including the one of the shark attacking the cage after Hooper swims out) were real sharks filmed by Rod and Valerie Taylor in South Australia.

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Vast majority real sharks, but there is some CGI.

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I'm Australian and I"m sure most Australians know that a majority of our movies are a piece of *beep* but there a good movies like 'Proposition', 'Animal Kingdom', 'Snowtown', 'Red Dog', 'Balibo' and 'Wolf Creek' was alright.

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Funny!

As a European I think many Aussie films are better than those from Hollywood. Not just those you have mentioned here, but many more. Like "Chopper", Remulus, My father, Muriel's Wedding, Lantana, Priscilla-Queen of the Desert, Strictly Ballroom, and so on. All of these are better than most CGI-blockbusters or "gritty" dramas.

I doubt that Aussies think their movies are crap.

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According to the behind-the-scenes documentary on the Region 1 DVD, the sharks were the genuine scary article. Moreover, all the shark footage was shot at Port Lincoln in South Australia.

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Contrary to what some people are saying there is no CGI in this movie

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