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Numerous plot holes and discrepancies


I just watched season one and part of season two on DVD. But my season two only has til the episode where Eli gets blown up. I don't know why.

Anyway, this show is definitely gripping, suspenseful and entertaining. It keeps you glued to the edge of your seat.

However, there are sooooooooooooo many plot holes and discrepancies in it.

- Like in the original series, it is too easy to walk around the V ship and do whatever you want, cause every room is unguarded and has no security. Anna simply has no common sense. In the hatchery with thousands of her eggs, Erica got in to throw a grenade, yet there was not even any security or locked door to stop her. Yeah right. And Decker just goes to the human torture chamber like that, with no security guarding the area? Right.

- Why did Ryan betray the 5th Column and the assassination plan? I thought he wanted Anna assassinated so that he would get his daughter back. Why didn't he go through with it? That was never explained. By preventing Anna's assassination, he prolonged not having his daughter. That defied basic logic.

- And after the failed assassination attempt on Anna, why did Hobbes decide to shoot Marcus, her right hand man? What did that accomplish? Nothing. He would just be replaced, and Anna would have her guard up and not appear in public anymore. They should have just waited for another chance.

- Why did Anna have Joshua screen every Visitor, including her daughter, for empathy and emotions, yet left Joshua himself unscreened? That made no sense and was a plot blunder on the part of the writers. If Anna would screen her own daughter, why not Joshua?

- How could Joshua and other 5th Column members talk so secretly on board the ship? Doesn't the ship have cameras and listening devices everywhere, making secret communication impossible and privacy impossible as well?

- Tyler's dad getting killed during the shootout made no sense either. Eli's men were shooting at the FBI, and were supposed to be under Erica's command, so why would they shoot her ex? And the FBI had no reason to shoot him too. So who shot him? That was never explained and made no sense.

- If Lisa could get into Diana's secret dungeon so easily, just by stepping onto a platform that she saw Anna get off of, then why can't Diana get out of the dungeon the same way? How come Anna doesn't have any safeguards against anyone entering a secret room? No common sense at all.

There are probably more of course. So many blunders. It's unbelievable. So much in this series doesn't make sense.


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You won't get much of an explanation for anything, since there isn't much of one. :)

- Like in the original series, it is too easy to walk around the V ship and do whatever you want, cause every room is unguarded and has no security. Anna simply has no common sense. In the hatchery with thousands of her eggs, Erica got in to throw a grenade, yet there was not even any security or locked door to stop her. Yeah right. And Decker just goes to the human torture chamber like that, with no security guarding the area? Right.

Anna uses surveillance that she apparently forgot about. :) It might be that Erica entered from Anna's personal quarters. Maybe Lisa unlocked for her when we weren't looking? Anyway, lacking guards and basic locks, yeah, it makes no sense.

- Why did Ryan betray the 5th Column and the assassination plan? I thought he wanted Anna assassinated so that he would get his daughter back. Why didn't he go through with it? That was never explained. By preventing Anna's assassination, he prolonged not having his daughter. That defied basic logic.

As I said in the other thread...he's an idiot.

- And after the failed assassination attempt on Anna, why did Hobbes decide to shoot Marcus, her right hand man? What did that accomplish? Nothing. He would just be replaced, and Anna would have her guard up and not appear in public anymore. They should have just waited for another chance.

For this, I can imagine they thought it'd have a great impact than it did. Whoops.

- Why did Anna have Joshua screen every Visitor, including her daughter, for empathy and emotions, yet left Joshua himself unscreened? That made no sense and was a plot blunder on the part of the writers. If Anna would screen her own daughter, why not Joshua?

I imagine Joshua falsified results for Fifth Column V's, like with Lisa and Ryan. V's in general were starting to feel more emotion, so there was a wide range. Remember, Marcus' most trusted man failed? He wasn't a 5C, he just failed the test. Anna had her suicide test later, but I didn't get the impression that the people who failed that test were 5C.

As for Joshua's own test, maybe he picked a 5C V to test him. Not sure why that'd be allowed though. Maybe he set up false results for himself before he was tested. For that matter, didn't he design the test? Maybe he purposely set up a test that he knew he could pass. I mean really, all he'd have to do is repeatedly watch those images until they bored him silly. Or maybe killing David was his test.

- How could Joshua and other 5th Column members talk so secretly on board the ship? Doesn't the ship have cameras and listening devices everywhere, making secret communication impossible and privacy impossible as well?

Anna forgot them. Apparently so did every other V on those ships. :)

- Tyler's dad getting killed during the shootout made no sense either. Eli's men were shooting at the FBI, and were supposed to be under Erica's command, so why would they shoot her ex? And the FBI had no reason to shoot him too. So who shot him? That was never explained and made no sense.

I think it was supposed to be random crossfire...that happened to repeatedly hit that particular and not, say, five feet away. The idea itself was sound, but the way is was executed (no pun intended) sucked. Having random bullets hitting other areas, and not having Joe repeatedly shot in that one particular area, would have made it more clear what was going on.

- If Lisa could get into Diana's secret dungeon so easily, just by stepping onto a platform that she saw Anna get off of, then why can't Diana get out of the dungeon the same way? How come Anna doesn't have any safeguards against anyone entering a secret room? No common sense at all.

I think I saw some explanations elsewhere about this, but none that really made sense. There was an idea of "Where would she go?" but that idea kind of failed when she suddenly brought up a secret escape pod that only she knew about.

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Here are some more implausible far fetched things about this series:

- Everyday, FBI agent Erica Evans spends the whole day with the FBI, and then the whole day with her 5th Column team, as if there are two whole days per 24 hour cycle. lol. There is no way that she can do that everyday without being caught, either by the FBI or the Visitors. Yeah right. No way. That is too far fetched.

The FBI could easily bug her cell phone or have someone follow her to find out what she is doing. How does she know that when she's talking to the other 5th Column members, that the FBI isn't listening in? It would be too easy for the FBI or the Visitors to find out her secret activities. One cannot lead a double life everyday and not be found out, especially when one works for the FBI. No way.

- What does it mean to skin a Visitor? Ryan said it means to take off their human skin. But since their human skin is not their real skin, how would that cause them pain or death? That doesn't make sense and wasn't properly explained.

- That scene where Erica Evans fought agent Malloque was BS. Erica was beaten down and her arm was twisted and broken. Yet at the last second, she gets up and lunges at Mallogue onto a tree and knocking her out? Yeah right. This is the typical "protagonist takes hundreds of hits and then knocks out his/her opponent with one single hit" cliche that's been overused in movies and never adds up. Erica was outmatched in strength too, so where did she get that kind of strength to knock out agent Malloque with just one lunge? And what about her broken arm? It just suddenly healed?

It's like Erica is invincible, like Mike Donovan was in the original V series. Even when Donovan was way outmatched by a martial arts expert like Martin's brother Phil, he still won, for no reason other than that he's Donovan and invincible.

- How come during the shootouts on the Visitor ship, no lasers came out of the guns, like in the original series? Did this show not have the budget to put in some lasers? Come on now. Even amateur film makers on YouTube are able to put lasers into their videos.


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Unlike the original, the skin becomes part of them. Once it's put on, they can't take it off.

As for the lack of lasers, I like that myself. The guns already make people turn into ash. I don't need to see lasers for a sci fi feel. That's not something that's far fetched or a plot hole. It's just a matter of opinion.
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"It's like Erica is invincible, like Mike Donovan was in the original V series. Even when Donovan was way outmatched by a martial arts expert like Martin's brother Phil, he still won, for no reason other than that he's Donovan and invincible."

I agree with everything else you said BUT please bear in mind that the original series ends when they send that signal into space. Johnson dropped out during the making of "The Final Battle".

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In the deleted scenes Ryan and Joshua realized Diana has a combustion device in her neck that will activate if she leaves the dungeon. They manage to deactivate it before breaking her out.

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Aww. Neat. That scene shouldn't have been deleted.
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