Earth should have been fine. PLOT HOLE
Near the end of the movie they say that the meteor will arrive a week early.
Pretty much means it's going to miss us. How the hell does the meteor still hit us?
Learn to science, hollywood.
Near the end of the movie they say that the meteor will arrive a week early.
Pretty much means it's going to miss us. How the hell does the meteor still hit us?
Learn to science, hollywood.
The miscalculation could be made if the meteorite was aligned with earth elliptical orbit or atleast some section of it's orbit was aligned and it was heading at/chaising after earth. If object is heading right at you from such a big distance as you intuitively should know, it's very difficult to tell where it is and how fast it's going. To get all parameters of elliptical orbit you need multiple points of observation. The observations we made about general planets in solar system weren't made in one nice evening in observatory, some of them took centuries to collect and process. If that asteroid was aligned with earth orbit and it arrived earlier, it would still hit.. surprise surprise. What's interesting is that only 16 hours was left till impact, and it would take at least 17 hours to fly to England in that tiny plane, if it had enough fuel. She would never got to see her parents... Anyway, i don't care even if it was incorrect, i didn't watch this movie to learn about astronomy, i have a heavy thick book for that purpose, i watched it to learn something about humanity, and it looks like you have something to learn yourself on the matter, or you will spend the rest of your pity life finding "giant plot holes" in movies.
shareYou're not accounting for the time it took him to drive home in calculating the flight to England. From Delaware to NYC (one assumes, since they crossed NJ on the way) at a leisurely drive would add on enough time, especially since it's not entirely clear how long after he arrived home the newscast announced the revised timetable.
As far as the elliptical thing, if it arrived earlier, it would depend on the arc of the ellipse. A week is a *huge* amount of time for an object traveling at the normal speeds of something moving in ellipse since it would necessarily be caught in a gravity well of some sort to be moving in that kind of pattern. What the source of such a gravity well might be is...really hard to guess. If it's the sun, then its arc is broad and it's unlikely to be in an intersecting path with earth's orbit for a week. If it's a closer body...the only one that could conceivably create such a predictable ellipse is Jupiter and there are far too many alternate sources of gravity (see: Sun) to make this exactly within the realm of remote probability, especially since Jupiter's gravitational influence wouldn't come close to creating such an orbit. All this assumes it's moving in a contradistinct orbit from Earth. If it's moving in the same orbit, then arriving a week early means it would get there before Earth does and miss entirely.
Don't get me wrong, it's a clever attempt. But it has gaping flaws as large as the original post discusses. Also, measuring a straight-on impact with a month to spare wouldn't be that difficult...for an object that close, they can establish parallax just using the Earth's orbit and deduce the velocity.
Also, it didn't ruin the movie for me either. It's just nice when filmmakers take that extra effort to make certain everything hangs together. Nothing wrong with deriving intellectual pleasure to go along with the emotional pleasure.
I don't really think the science behind the meteor really matters, it was a love story.
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The film is a love story (or companionship story), so its not important anyway, but the conspiracy explains away the arriving early.
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Yeah! I would call that a bit of a plot hole!
It is bizarre in this movie since they really don't make much use of the change in date for the asteroid. The script could have easily just had the story's conclusion coincide with the last day for Earth.
When it comes to "Melancholia," I have a kind of a different take on it. First of all, it's a Lars von Trier movie, so anything goes! Plus, it has been said that the planet is really a manifestation of Kirsten Dunst's character's own melancholia. So, the planet could be just symbolic.
And, as 100% impossible as the astrophysics in that movie are, at least the actions of the planet serve a purpose in the story. That being the characters thinking that the planet will just miss them, then instead having to deal with it coming to impact Earth.
So, there's that!
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It was just a plot contrivance, the government lied to delay the panic, and oops, the meteor is almost here. And did you miss the daylight saving time as well? "The meteor will be here in 16 hours, and don't forget to set your clocks ahead one hour for DST!" Meaning they lost a week.. and then another hour! As if the countdown to impact would be calculated taking DST into account, in the sense that they knew it was coming, but left the extra hour on the countdown until the DST change. Don't logic movies, interwebs.
shareI honestly don't remember the anchor saying it's a week early, just that it's early and there's 16 hours left.
I do, however, remember Carell saying something about having only three days left when they were on their road trip.
I could be wrong, tho...
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Just saw this last night. I don't recall hearing anything about a government conspiracy to change the predicted impact date to something later, or conceal the actual date from the public. Here's what the TV news anchor said near the end of the movie:
"... once again, CSA's latest report reveals Matilda will be arriving one week ahead of schedule. So be sure to mark your calendars. Also, a friendly reminder to set your clocks ahead for daylight savings time. Spring forward. That's one hour ahead."
Early on in the film, the radio announcer did talk about how experts had calculated the exact location of impact, but they were withholding that information for fear of causing even more panic. Then later on, the radio announcer says that no matter where the impact occurs, the resulting firestorm will wipe out all life.
Just saw this last night. I don't recall hearing anything about a government conspiracy to change the predicted impact date to something later, or conceal the actual date from the public.
Dude: Newsflash....It's FICTION, NOT a documentary.
shareWhatever you think about the announcement that the meteor will suddenly hit a week early, it's not a "PLOT HOLE".
You might enjoy the film more if you understood that it's not about a meteor hitting the planet. The meteor is just a plot device. This isn't science fiction.
Also, for what it's worth, even within the logic of the film, we don't know that the meteor does hit a week early. We just have a statement by a guy on TV saying that it will. We don't even know if it hits at all. The movie just ends.
This isn't a movie about astrophysics. It's about people confronting their own mortality, and what happens when they do.
The movie ends with explosions in the background and a bright white light, which is what would happen when a meteorite explodes, as we saw in Russia earlier this year. They ended the movie with them dying in each others arms.
shareNot a plot hole read the scroll on the scene, the govt knew it would arrive when it did.
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